Was it really 'broke' as you say? I was under the impression that the Microsoft patch just skewed the gui for the IMail admin interface - which is really no big deal. I believe the Microsoft patch was to fix an issued if 'someone' had physical access and logged onto your servers console. As stated, in many previous post, IMail could have easily been managed many different ways like via the web interface or port 8181. From what I also gather is that this was a Microsoft muck up and them alone. My only thought on this would be that Microsoft will find that they really hadn't 'patched' their software correctly and will probably have to issue yet another patch for this patch. Kind of reminds me of when they 'patched' windows terminal server. Those whom had quickly installed the patch found themselves without the ability to use terminal services for about 2-3 weeks. So.. as a suggestion and only a suggestion.. don't immediately install patches. Wait until the 'others' install them and see what happens 1st. If the patches via Microsoft pertain your environment then install them but always remember - no software company is perfect. If it isn't broken then don't fix it can apply sometimes and to me this was one of those situations.
FWIW IPSwitch has issued a fix for Microsoft's problem and I believe as of today all of the IMail owners have been notified via link for the hotfix. ~Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serhan Sevim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:11 PM - SATCOM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Windows Update Q328310 > There is this security patch that a user "must" install to his/her server, > on the other hand it breaks the 3rd party software and makes it unusable. > Since we're not talking about an open source platform, the code written the > in the security patch will always be a secret and there is absolutely no way > microsoft would ever reveal what exactly it manipulates in the system. > This is a very very problematic loophole. This can even lead Ipswitch to > bankrupt sooner or later just like Luis said. Or a better choice would be to > discontinue Imail. > I don't want to be pessimistic in here but it's the truth. I'm trying to > think myself as the Software Operations Manager of Ipswitch Inc and I'd > probably go nuts. > Serhan. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Panda Consulting S.A - Luis Alberto Arango" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:01 AM > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Windows Update Q328310 > > > > I have tested about 15 different third party applications in w2k systems > > with the new patch and also a couple of third party software in our > > production server. All third party software don't show any GUI problems. > > Only software with problems is IMAIL Administrator. I also tested Imail > > Client and works fine. > > > > According to this forum, problem affects versions 6.06 to 7.13. Only > > solutions so far are > > 1. To uninstall the patch and reboot the server. > > 2. Partial solution is to set higher screen resolution. > > 3. or use other methods of administrating IMail (via web messaging or > remote > > connection). > > > > Problem first posted about a week ago. At the time I am writing this post > > Ipswitch KB doesn't say anything about this problem which I consider it to > > be a major mail server administration issue/conflict. > > > > I hope Ipswitch guys read this post. Since most of all other third party > > software I have tested don't show the GUI problem, my common sense says > that > > it is a problem that Ipswitch should take care of by releasing a hot fix > > (free) for users using 6.05 to 7.13. > > > > I definitly won't uninstall a security patch. I do care about security on > my > > server and won't take any chances. > > > > I have read in this forum that this patch introduces a new "standard" that > > mus be adhered to. That means that problems are not going to happen only > > with this patch but with the next ones. And the answer cann't be not to > > install the patches. If that is philosophy, Ipswitch would go out of > > business sooner than later. New Imail customers will find that the > software > > doesn't work properly and will ask for their money back. > > > > Ipswitch guys, please spend sometime to fix this and relaase a patch to > all > > your loyal customers (versions 6.06 to 7.13). I will also appreciate an > > official statment from Ipswitch about this issue. > > > > Luis Arango > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan Shadix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:43 AM > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Windows Update Q328310 > > > > > > > Wow, a Microsoft patch breaks something that has worked fine for years > and > > you automatically assume that Ipswitch has to fix it. MS marketing is > truly > > a marvel. I'm stunned. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > > > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:47:01 -0500 > > > > > > >I sent a support request email to Ipswitch about this, hope everyone > else > > > >who is affected will also. Hopefully they will release a patch right > > away. > > > > > > > >Mike > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Tom Pepper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 8:13 AM > > > >Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Windows Update Q328310 > > > > > > > > > > > >> Same here. Had to uninstall the patch to get IMail back to normal. > > This > > > >> ain't good. > > > >> > > > >> Tom > > > >> > > > >> : Mine is also! 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