Ok - here's my specifics, bear with me:

We have now:
2 mail-servers in two cities connected via point-to-point
with each location connected to the internet independently.

mail.jvcdiscusa.com : e-mail addresses are [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Traffic is approx 6k messages/day.

atlmail.jvcdiscusa.com : email addresses are [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Traffic is approx 3k messages/day.

We also have a virtual host (without an IP) on
mail.jvcdiscusa.com that is mail.jvcmedia.com: email addresses are
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


They want:
All users to receive mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keep both mail servers so if either internet connection goes down,
the mail will still be received.
Eventually do away with jvcdiscusa.com

I was planning on
1)backing up jvcmedia.com, deleting, and re-adding with an IP address;
2)adding a jvcmedia.com host on atlmail.
3)setting up a second MX record for jvcmedia.com pointed to the 2nd server.
4)forwarding all jvcdiscusa.com mail to jvcmedia.com

what do you think ?

Cris Porter






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Peering



>the accounts had been migrated to the new servers, we noticed that we were
>seeing a lot of duplication in emails & active SMTP delivery threads since
>messages were being duplicated roughly half of the time.

Duped messages is a not feature of peering.  What was causing your dupes?

>This is compounded if your IMail servers forward all email through
>anti-virus / spam gateways (as the email could potentially hit the gateway
>twice)

So Imail SMTP "send all outbound through gateway" routing does override
peering routing?

>Peering will reduce the burden on a server for IMAP/POP/auth requests

Well, yes, less mailboxes,  less mailbox reading, but peering increases the
"burden" on mailbox readers since each mailbox reader must connect to the
specific peer holding his mailbox.

>but may not necessarily reduce overall SMTP traffic

huh? peering will necessarily ALWAYS increase SMTP traffic in EVERY peer
(ie, peering is not a scaling solution, because it is not a scaleable
solution).  It's a convenient routing solution if your traffic is
sufficiently small.

Here's my so-called "kneejerk" analysis:

Inbound msgs will hit the right peer (out of x total peers) only 1/x of the
time, and so (1 - 1/x) of the inbound at will arrive at the wrong peer and
wil need re-delivery to correct peer.

Let's say x = 6 peers.   1/6 of the MX traffic will arrive at a peer, but
only 1/6 of that will be for that peer's mailboxes. 1/6 * 1/6 => 2.7%, or
97% of the traffic goes to the wrong box.  oops!

ie, for 100 messages into a peer, only 3 will be for that peer's mailboxes,
and the peer has to VRFY probe the other 5 peers to deliver the other 97
messages.

100 msgs/hour? No big deal.  But 10,000 msgs/hour? That's 9700 msgs/hour
that must re-delivered to the right peer, plus ( 2.5 x 9700 ) VRFY probes
to find the right peer.  "Houston, ..."

Ah, but you say "we have only 2 peers"?  Great, you have the "best case"
peering, so "only" 50% of the messages will have to re-delivered.  A peer
receives 5k msgs/hour, and 2.5K must be re-delivered to the other peer,
doubling my peer's traffic, and that's best case.

Except for the tiniest quantities of inbound traffic, it's better to forget
about peering, and run one mailbox server.

Len


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