Hi,

Dare I detect a hint of defensiveness here? ;-) For the record, I am a
software engineer with a background in assembly language programming and
equally at home on Windows or Linux ... whatever solves the problem best.

Please do not ever mistake what I hope is my objective reasoning for petty
Linux vs Windows debates. Each has it's own positive and negative points.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 03:19:21PM -0500, Mike Biddle wrote:
> From: "Jon Miles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >and there are better alternatives if you have
> > the skills.
> 
> This is a common misconception among lots of computer folks. They toot their
> own horn because they can use UNIX or Linux and they think that since
> Windows 2003 server is easier to use, that it is inferior. 

There is also a common tendency amongst people to make incorrect deductions
from what other people say.

>                                                            I attended a MS
> event yesterday and they addressed many valid security things. Just because
> something has a poor interface does not mean it is superior or bulletproof.

Agreed, entirely. A "poor interface" is a very subjective phrase. I have
attended one or two events at Microsoft, Reading, UK, and they are certainly
never too short of enthusiasm for their current goals.

> First, the newer software Microsoft has released has had 4 security updates
> vs. 18 during the same time period of the previous software Windows 2000.
>
> It's becoming apparent that all software has vulnerabilities because it is
> made by humans for humans. I believe Microsoft has the resources to respond
> the fastest once they get the rest of the plan executed next year for
> security update rollouts.

Becoming apparent? This has been apparent for a long long time, depending on
which security circles you follow. It's just a pitty that some organisations
are taking longer to wake up than others. Microsoft certainly has to be one
of the most responsive of late.

> Next year brings many changes including one Update page for ALL Microsoft
> Products. It will scan for office updates, os, etc etc.

This is digressing from the subject of the thread, but I will certainly be
glad to see these improvements. IIRC, we are discussing IMail, not MS?

> One other thing, you don't necessarily needs skills, we can pay someone like
> you to do our dirty work.

When I said 'you', I meant an entity (organisation), not necessarily an
individual. I resent your provocative tone, though.

-- 
Jon Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cybah on IRC(net)

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