I found the #6 UG rated wire a real bear to run (it's about 100' - under the driveway, behind the bushes, in upstairs then down 1 floor to the server room). Pulling #4 or #2 must have really been a chore! I'll stick with the 60A version, thank you very much!
I didn't much care for the sheet rock repair either, but it sure is nice when that automatic transfer switch goes THWAAACKKKKKK! Dan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don Brown Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 6:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: KVM over IP & RemoteReboot We've got the largest 'air cooled' Generac and run natural gas. We only use about 40A of the 100A capacity to power all of our network, air, lights and other essential items. It's been in service about 2 yrs and it's trouble free. We found a place in Arizona on the Internet (don't remember the name) with a good price, including lift-gate shipping. Friday, December 31, 2004, 11:07:48 AM, Dan Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DB> Aw shucks, why not now! DB> � DB> Generac, free shipping, free AUTOMATIC transfer switch, free DB> pad, under $3K, 15KW. Add $500 for a 250-gallon propane tank and DB> "Surf til you drop!". DB> � DB> Dan DB> � DB> I run 6 servers on a $120 Belkin 1200 va. The monitor DB> software says it's 56% loaded, and the battery shows about 65% DB> after the generator kicks on. DB> -----Original Message----- DB> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DB> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris DB> Ulrich DB> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 10:24 AM DB> To: [email protected] DB> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: KVM over IP & RemoteReboot DB> Hi Matt.� Thanks - I think you're right on target for future growth.� DB> Since we're in control of all machines and these are not DB> colo's, the multiple user access isn't even a necessity - but DB> great to know, and a good item at $139 MSRP DB> What we're likely to do is use some older 8 port DB> MasterSwitches, plug them into the existing UPS (which should DB> be enough for 4 of these machines) and just use DB> four of the ports, leaving the other four empty.� We can pick these up very cheap on eBay. DB> On the new machines - we're going to put 12 per "metro DB> rack", plus KVM, local (to the rack) 10/100 switch, keyboard and DB> monitor - DB> your approach sounds best - one larger UPS with an extra DB> attached battery (around $1k MSRP) plus the $139 MasterSwitch DB> Thanks for all the advice.� Next week... generators... ; ) DB> Hope everyone has a happy & healthy New Year.� I know I'll DB> be home, monitoring the network, just in case that pesky Y2K DB> bug shows up late.... DB> Chris DB> At 01:18 AM 12/31/2004, you wrote: DB> I'm thinking that maybe something got lost in the DB> shuffle here when APC was first discussed.� The older model DB> MasterSwitch did not allow for individual logins to control DB> individual ports, however, the newer versions do, and this is DB> a lot less expensive than buying individual devices for each DB> outlet. DB> For each rack (set of servers), get a single UPS that DB> can handle the wattage of the combined servers for the DB> necessary period of time, and add a MasterSwitch or other PDU DB> from APC that allows for separate logins for separate ports, and DB> you have yourself a complete solution without a wiring mess DB> or excessive equipment to support.� Just read the manuals DB> associated with the PDU's listed on APC's site: DB> ��� http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=70 DB> Note from the MasterSwitch product brochure: DB> Individual Outlet Control DB> MasterSwitch products provide power solutions for co-locators (COLOs) and DB> Internet Service Providers (ISPs). COLOs and ISPs can take control of their DB> businesses by giving control back to their customers. This is done by administrators DB> assigning individual or multiple outlet control to user accounts. DB> Customers then have the ability to control their equipments power without onsite DB> intervention. DB> The prices listed on their site are the MSRP's, and new DB> from Shopper.com you will generally do better than 20% off DB> that price.� Find something suitable and used on eBay and get +50% DB> off.� The following 16-port device has an MSRP of $139 and allows DB> for multiple users: DB> ��� DB> http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP9227 DB> A used (eBay) UPS that doesn't need special wiring and DB> can handle the load (~2,000 VA) with new batteries and a new DB> 16 port MasterSwitch of this type should run somewhere around DB> $500...shipped. DB> Matt DB> P. Guethlein wrote: DB> At 01:06 PM 12/30/2004 -0600, you wrote: DB> Wouldn't something like this work for you. DB> http://www.dataprobe.com/power/iboot.html DB> Tim DB> Here's one that is less expensive. DB> http://www.RemotePowerSwitch.com DB> -Pete DB> To Unsubscribe: DB> http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html DB> List Archive: DB> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ DB> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ ---- Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364 Fax: (972) 788-5049 ---- To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
