Dear Dinesh ji
Phyllanthus fraternus (with P. niruri Hook.f. non Linn. as syn) and P. amarus
are both described in Eflora of Pakistan. Latter is described in Eflora of
China, who mention that it was formerly misidentified as P. niruri. Presence of
5 perianth (as against 6 in P. fraternus), each leaf axil (most middle) with
one male and one female flower (female flowers single in leaf axils in P.
fraternus), disc 5 lobed (as against 6-10 lobed) are quite characteristic of P.
amarus. Leaves are described as 3-8 x 2-4.5 mm in Eflora of Pakistan, 3-6 x
1.5-3 mm in Flora of China. Your plant with larger leaves could be different
species.
P. fraternus grows around my house and I have observed it constantly.
Let us explore further
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College
University of Delhi, Delhi
India
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
----- Original Message -----
From: Dinesh Valke
To: Gurcharan Singh
Cc: [email protected] ; Devendra Bhardwaj
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17144] Re: ID-DKB178
Gurcharan ji, the leaves in the photo attached by me are about 12 - 15 mm
long, and about 5 - 8 mm wide ... the fruits seen are about 2 - 3 mm.
I am believing it to be P. amarus, and also P. niruri as its synonym.
However, I am keen to know whether I am mistaking, especially because there
is too much mix up of P. amarus, P. niruri, and P. fraternus on the internet
...though whatever is discussed seemingly contradict.
Any clarity for differentiating these three species will greatly help in
thrashing confusion and mistakes on the internet.
Regards.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Dinesh ji and Devendra ji
I thought the plant photographed by Devendra ji appeared to be shrubby, and
fruits larger and black- hence my guess about reticulatus.
P. niruri Linn, P. amarus and P. fraternus are three distinct species, but
Indian specimens don't belong to P. niruri rather P. fraternus. P. niruri thus
is not synonym of P. amarus (not P. niruri Linn or P. niruri Hook.f.). P.
fraternus has larger leaves and 6 perianth, male and female fls in different
axils (male in lower axils, female in our axils), and 6-10 lobed disc. P.
amarus has smaller leaves (yours are larger than mine P. fraternus hence the
doubt), perianth 5 and 5-lobed disc.
Gurcharan Singh
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College
University of Delhi, Delhi
India
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
----- Original Message -----
From: Dinesh Valke
To: [email protected] ; Gurcharan Singh
Cc: Devendra Bhardwaj
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17144] Re: ID-DKB178
... Phyllanthus amarus
commonly known as: black catnip, carry me seed, child pick-a-back, gale
of wind, gulf leaf flower, hurricane weed, shatterstone, stone breaker •
Bengali: bhui amla • Hindi: bhui aonla, jar amla, jangli amli • Kannada:
kirunelli, nelanelli • Marathi: भुईआवळी bhuiavali • Sanskrit: bahupatra,
भूम्यामलकी bhumyaamalaki, jar amla, thamalaki • Tamil: கீழாநெல்லி keelanelli,
கீழ்காய்நெல்லி kizkaynelli • Telugu: నేల ఉసిరి nela usiri
Regards.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
Devender ji, I think Phyllanthus reticulatus
Gurcharan Singh
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College
University of Delhi, Delhi
India
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
----- Original Message -----
From: Devendra Bhardwaj
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:08 AM
Subject: [indiantreepix:17127] ID-DKB178
Hello,
Plant from Virat nagar Forest Jaipur
For ID(ID-DKB178)
It is Phyllanthus?
Photo Taken on-26.8.2009
Regd
Devendra
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