Gurcharan ji ... thank you very much for pointing info of the species. So is it correct that Devendra ji's plant is *P. fraternus* ?
Regards. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Dinesh ji > > Phyllanthus fraternus (with P. niruri Hook.f. non Linn. as syn) and P. > amarus are both described in Eflora of Pakistan. Latter is described in > Eflora of China, who mention that it was formerly misidentified as P. > niruri. Presence of 5 perianth (as against 6 in P. fraternus), each leaf > axil (most middle) with one male and one female flower (female flowers > single in leaf axils in P. fraternus), disc 5 lobed (as against 6-10 lobed) > are quite characteristic of P. amarus. Leaves are described as 3-8 x 2-4.5 > mm in Eflora of Pakistan, 3-6 x 1.5-3 mm in Flora of China. Your plant with > larger leaves could be different species. > P. fraternus grows around my house and I have observed it constantly. > > Let us explore further > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College > University of Delhi, Delhi > India > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > *To:* Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > *Cc:* [email protected] ; Devendra > Bhardwaj<[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:46 PM > *Subject:* Re: [indiantreepix:17144] Re: ID-DKB178 > > Gurcharan ji, the leaves in the photo attached by me are about 12 - 15 mm > long, and about 5 - 8 mm wide ... the fruits seen are about 2 - 3 mm. > I am believing it to be *P. amarus*, and also *P. niruri* as its synonym. > > However, I am keen to know whether I am mistaking, especially because there > is too much mix up of *P. amarus*, *P. niruri*, and *P. fraternus* on the > internet ...though whatever is discussed seemingly contradict. > > Any clarity for differentiating these three species will greatly help in > thrashing confusion and mistakes on the internet. > > Regards. > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Dinesh ji and Devendra ji >> >> I thought the plant photographed by Devendra ji appeared to be shrubby, >> and fruits larger and black- hence my guess about reticulatus. >> >> P. niruri Linn, P. amarus and P. fraternus are three distinct species, but >> Indian specimens don't belong to P. niruri rather P. fraternus. P. niruri >> thus is not synonym of P. amarus (not P. niruri Linn or P. niruri Hook.f.). >> P. fraternus has larger leaves and 6 perianth, male and female fls in >> different axils (male in lower axils, female in our axils), and 6-10 lobed >> disc. P. amarus has smaller leaves (yours are larger than mine P. fraternus >> hence the doubt), perianth 5 and 5-lobed disc. >> >> Gurcharan Singh >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College >> University of Delhi, Delhi >> India >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] ; Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* Devendra Bhardwaj <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:38 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [indiantreepix:17144] Re: ID-DKB178 >> >> ... Phyllanthus amarus >> >> commonly known as: black catnip, carry me seed, child pick-a-back, gale of >> wind, gulf leaf flower, hurricane weed, shatterstone, stone breaker • >> Bengali: bhui amla • Hindi: bhui aonla, jar amla, jangli amli • Kannada: >> kirunelli, nelanelli • Marathi: भुईआवळी bhuiavali • Sanskrit: bahupatra, >> भूम्यामलकी bhumyaamalaki, jar amla, thamalaki • Tamil: கீழாநெல்லி >> keelanelli, கீழ்காய்நெல்லி kizkaynelli • Telugu: నేల ఉసిరి nela usiri >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Devender ji, I think Phyllanthus reticulatus >>> >>> Gurcharan Singh >>> >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College >>> University of Delhi, Delhi >>> India >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Devendra Bhardwaj <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:08 AM >>> *Subject:* [indiantreepix:17127] ID-DKB178 >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Plant from Virat nagar Forest Jaipur >>> >>> For ID(ID-DKB178) >>> >>> It is Phyllanthus? >>> >>> Photo Taken on-26.8.2009 >>> >>> Regd >>> >>> Devendra >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! >>> Buzz <http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_buzz_1/*http://in.buzz.yahoo.com/>>>> >>> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "indiantreepix" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
