Thanks to Gurcharan ji &Dinesh ji for correct ID. Regd Devendra --- On Sat, 29/8/09, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17144] Re: ID-DKB178 To: "Gurcharan Singh" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected], "Devendra Bhardwaj" <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, 29 August, 2009, 10:41 PM Gurcharan ji ... thank you very much for pointing info of the species. So is it correct that Devendra ji's plant is P. fraternus ? Regards. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Dinesh ji Phyllanthus fraternus (with P. niruri Hook.f. non Linn. as syn) and P. amarus are both described in Eflora of Pakistan. Latter is described in Eflora of China, who mention that it was formerly misidentified as P. niruri. Presence of 5 perianth (as against 6 in P. fraternus), each leaf axil (most middle) with one male and one female flower (female flowers single in leaf axils in P. fraternus), disc 5 lobed (as against 6-10 lobed) are quite characteristic of P. amarus. Leaves are described as 3-8 x 2-4.5 mm in Eflora of Pakistan, 3-6 x 1.5-3 mm in Flora of China. Your plant with larger leaves could be different species. P. fraternus grows around my house and I have observed it constantly. Let us explore further Dr. Gurcharan Singh Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College University of Delhi, Delhi India http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dinesh Valke To: Gurcharan Singh Cc: [email protected] ; Devendra Bhardwaj Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17144] Re: ID-DKB178 Gurcharan ji, the leaves in the photo attached by me are about 12 - 15 mm long, and about 5 - 8 mm wide ... the fruits seen are about 2 - 3 mm. I am believing it to be P. amarus, and also P. niruri as its synonym. However, I am keen to know whether I am mistaking, especially because there is too much mix up of P. amarus, P. niruri, and P. fraternus on the internet ...though whatever is discussed seemingly contradict. Any clarity for differentiating these three species will greatly help in thrashing confusion and mistakes on the internet. Regards. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Dinesh ji and Devendra ji I thought the plant photographed by Devendra ji appeared to be shrubby, and fruits larger and black- hence my guess about reticulatus. P. niruri Linn, P. amarus and P. fraternus are three distinct species, but Indian specimens don't belong to P. niruri rather P. fraternus. P. niruri thus is not synonym of P. amarus (not P. niruri Linn or P. niruri Hook.f.). P. fraternus has larger leaves and 6 perianth, male and female fls in different axils (male in lower axils, female in our axils), and 6-10 lobed disc. P. amarus has smaller leaves (yours are larger than mine P. fraternus hence the doubt), perianth 5 and 5-lobed disc. Gurcharan Singh Dr. Gurcharan Singh Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College University of Delhi, Delhi India http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dinesh Valke To: [email protected] ; Gurcharan Singh Cc: Devendra Bhardwaj Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17144] Re: ID-DKB178 ... Phyllanthus amarus commonly known as: black catnip, carry me seed, child pick-a-back, gale of wind, gulf leaf flower, hurricane weed, shatterstone, stone breaker • Bengali: bhui amla • Hindi: bhui aonla, jar amla, jangli amli • Kannada: kirunelli, nelanelli • Marathi: भुईआवळी bhuiavali • Sanskrit: bahupatra, भूम्यामलकी bhumyaamalaki, jar amla, thamalaki • Tamil: கீழாநெல்லி keelanelli, கீழ்காய்நெல்லி kizkaynelli • Telugu: నేల ఉసిరి nela usiri Regards. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: Devender ji, I think Phyllanthus reticulatus Gurcharan Singh Dr. Gurcharan Singh Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College University of Delhi, Delhi India http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 ----- Original Message ----- From: Devendra Bhardwaj To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: [indiantreepix:17127] ID-DKB178 Hello, Plant from Virat nagar Forest Jaipur For ID(ID-DKB178) It is Phyllanthus? Photo Taken on-26.8.2009 Regd Devendra See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! Buzz See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! Buzz. http://in.buzz.yahoo.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "indiantreepix" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
