Dear Dr Gurcharansinghji,
As per T. Cooke flora outer involucral bracts
1. ovate, acute is P. tomentosa (ovalis)
2. oblong, obtuse is P. lanceolata
You can see these features in Dr. Rawat's post of P. lanceolata and my post
of P. ovalis
Hope this resolves ID of 2 Plucheas. Regards
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:20:03 PM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
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> Thanks Shrikant ji for this upload.
> Perhaps we may have clear picture at the end of this episode.
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> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar <
> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
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>> Dear Dr.Gurcharsinghji, I have been calling the attached plant with 5-8
>> cm long, auricled and coarsely dentate leaves as P. ovalis. Pls ID this
>> plant that is strongly aromatic. Regards,
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:29:04 AM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
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>>> I think P. ovalis. Besides leaf shape in second photograph, the dentate
>>> leaf margin, the crucial difference is auricled leaf base, which can be
>>> seen.
>>>
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>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Nidhan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing Dinesh Ji, I am uploading in a separate mail the
>>>> plant I consider to be Pluchea lanceolata, with entire margins..hope that
>>>> helps to resolve...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks Shrikant ji for validating the ID.
>>>>>
>>>>> This plant is also found in Thane and Mumbai - near mangroves.
>>>>>
>>>>> The plant in this post grows about 2 m tall gregariously on large
>>>>> stream bed at Karnala Bird Sanctuary.
>>>>> The leaf in this post is oval or elliptic (acute at both ends) as well
>>>>> as tomentose - just as the epithets (*ovalis* or *tomentosa*) would
>>>>> suggest.
>>>>> On a close look, the margin is not truly entire; it is bluntly serrate
>>>>> or dentate (not sure exactly what it should be termed).
>>>>>
>>>>> But if the description says *P. ovalis* must be obovate, then this
>>>>> plant ID may need to reconsidered.
>>>>>
>>>>> This ID of *P. ovalis* (syn. *P. tomentosa*) was confirmed by Satish
>>>>> (Pardeshi) ji in one of my earlier
>>>>> post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1mDRWmO0rTc/yUvaz3t1TIkJ>
>>>>> .
>>>>> Would like to have Satish (Pardeshi) ji's comment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar <
>>>>> shrikant.i...@gmail.**com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dineshji, this seems P. lanceolata looking at entire and lanceolate
>>>>>> leaves. P. ovalis should have obovate and serrate leaves. Besides the
>>>>>> latter is a tall densely branched shrub 1-2 m tall. Pls check. Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, June 3, 2013 2:04:08 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads)
>>>>>>> aster, daisy, or sunflower family
>>>>>>> *Pluchea ovalis* (Pers.) DC.
>>>>>>> *PLOO-sha* -- named for Abbé Noel-Antoine Pluche, French
>>>>>>> naturalist ... Dave's
>>>>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DPluchea&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdSiV36GTFETL-E2-dQVijzbcDhHA>
>>>>>>> *oh-VAY-liss* -- oval ... Dave's
>>>>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dovalis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcHWZPOa3ZtKbOPX_wmNL4JcL_kDw>
>>>>>>> *toh-men-TOH-suh* -- covered with fine, matted hairs ... Dave's
>>>>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dtomentosa&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeYWjhRWObnbyLPoK9bvJWjH4Wkcg>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: woolly camphor-weed • *Sanskrit*: कलम्बिका
>>>>>>> kalambika, सिंहलतिक्त sinhalatikta • *Tamil*: கொழும்பு kolumpu,
>>>>>>> கொழும்புவேர் kolumpu-ver • *Telugu*: kalamba
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Distribution*: West Africa, Arabian peninsula, Pakistan, India
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *References*: Flowers of
>>>>>>> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWoolly%2520Camphor-Weed.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdq_ypU3n93L0v80lvfV-7NzqbxQw>•
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> eFlora<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D5%26taxon_id%3D242426917&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc9U97iEdkA9ClkPOHpaPbViYoSwA>•
>>>>>>> ENVIS
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> FRLHT<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fenvis.frlht.org.in%2Fbotanical_search.php%3Ftxtbtname%3DPluchea%2Btomentosa%26gesp%3D1238%257CPluchea%2Btomentosa%2BDC.&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdPOdjHKj3mxlu1jAk-AD4U_08fYw>•
>>>>>>> Floristic
>>>>>>> Survey of Institute of
>>>>>>> Science<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fiscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in%2Ffloristic%2520survey.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcUoz-zDUNsQiwoI1xlFNbeldxUlw>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at Karnala Bird Sanctuary between 30 MAY 09 and 14 JAN 11
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Pluchea
>>>>>>> ovalis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5354691786%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcsy4Mbs7qiVsYnpUC7utEAsKnVwQ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Kolumpu-ver (Tamil:
>>>>>>> கொழும்புவேர்)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4486218895%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdZLjzfFi-0GU5mAWotL52y7g948Q>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Kalambika (Sanskrit: कलम्बिका
>>>>>>> kalambika)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578555708%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfnLpm0seppm1xZ6I7htJpHnTwL0Q>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Kalamba (in
>>>>>>> Telugu)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578567064%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfewTCS2OQVIbLyt9srwCsMS5RDQg>
>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>> Dinesh
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