Dear friends, Recent Pluchea lanceolata posts by ... Gurcharan ji: Pluchea lanceolata from Delhi-GS11<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>... Rawat ji: Pluchea lanceolata from Uttarakhand_DSR_8<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/WsCeQk8iAFA/l6enVrAXMIUJ> Nidhan ji:Pluchea lanceolata from Panipat- NS 05<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/YxFCKlBRtpA/K6aVsfS2SBoJ>
All of them show aspects of plants to be consistent, especially the leaves - entire margin, sessile. With as many as 8 species of Pluchea distributed in India (Gurcharan ji's post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>giving keys to 7 species of *Pluchea* in India), I request you all to reconsider the ID of my posted plant. I am showing another photo, and two cropped portions of it for a closer look; hopefully the ID gets resolved. Though the sighting is another location - Vaghbil, Thane on 14 JAN 11, am confident that the plant is definitely same. I get a feeling that the leaf margin of my posted plant is serrate (or sub-serrate - not sure of terminology) and most possibly is amplexicaule. ORIGINAL SIZED photo below; two cropped portions of it, follow next. [image: Pluchea ovalis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5354086199%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeAGqGkgPkPgD4jmfDMnEInwofjXw> CROPPED PORTIONS OF ABOVE PHOTO below [image: Pluchea ¿ ovalis / lanceolata / else ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8997159970%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcB61LnuoqKqh5KPQz_Vaid-T0h3g> [image: Pluchea ¿ ovalis / lanceolata / else ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8995971099%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcS_1boesMvpQ7l83c8AnorqikwGg> Regards. Dinesh On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < [email protected]> wrote: > Dear Dr Gurcharansinghji, > As per T. Cooke flora outer involucral bracts > 1. ovate, acute is P. tomentosa (ovalis) > 2. oblong, obtuse is P. lanceolata > You can see these features in Dr. Rawat's post of P. lanceolata and my > post of P. ovalis > Hope this resolves ID of 2 Plucheas. Regards > > > On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:20:03 PM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > >> Thanks Shrikant ji for this upload. >> Perhaps we may have clear picture at the end of this episode. >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < >> shrikant.i...@gmail.**com> wrote: >> >>> Dear Dr.Gurcharsinghji, I have been calling the attached plant with 5-8 >>> cm long, auricled and coarsely dentate leaves as P. ovalis. Pls ID this >>> plant that is strongly aromatic. Regards, >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:29:04 AM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>> >>>> I think P. ovalis. Besides leaf shape in second photograph, the >>>> dentate leaf margin, the crucial difference is auricled leaf base, which >>>> can be seen. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com**/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg**45/<http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Nidhan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for sharing Dinesh Ji, I am uploading in a separate mail the >>>>> plant I consider to be Pluchea lanceolata, with entire margins..hope that >>>>> helps to resolve... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks Shrikant ji for validating the ID. >>>>>> >>>>>> This plant is also found in Thane and Mumbai - near mangroves. >>>>>> >>>>>> The plant in this post grows about 2 m tall gregariously on large >>>>>> stream bed at Karnala Bird Sanctuary. >>>>>> The leaf in this post is oval or elliptic (acute at both ends) as >>>>>> well as tomentose - just as the epithets (*ovalis* or *tomentosa*) >>>>>> would suggest. >>>>>> On a close look, the margin is not truly entire; it is bluntly >>>>>> serrate or dentate (not sure exactly what it should be termed). >>>>>> >>>>>> But if the description says *P. ovalis* must be obovate, then this >>>>>> plant ID may need to reconsidered. >>>>>> >>>>>> This ID of *P. ovalis* (syn. *P. tomentosa*) was confirmed by Satish >>>>>> (Pardeshi) ji in one of my earlier >>>>>> post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1mDRWmO0rTc/yUvaz3t1TIkJ> >>>>>> . >>>>>> Would like to have Satish (Pardeshi) ji's comment. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < >>>>>> shrikant.i...@gmail.**com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dineshji, this seems P. lanceolata looking at entire and lanceolate >>>>>>> leaves. P. ovalis should have obovate and serrate leaves. Besides the >>>>>>> latter is a tall densely branched shrub 1-2 m tall. Pls check. Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, June 3, 2013 2:04:08 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) >>>>>>>> aster, daisy, or sunflower family >>>>>>>> *Pluchea ovalis* (Pers.) DC. >>>>>>>> *PLOO-sha* -- named for Abbé Noel-Antoine Pluche, French >>>>>>>> naturalist ... Dave's >>>>>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DPluchea&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdSiV36GTFETL-E2-dQVijzbcDhHA> >>>>>>>> *oh-VAY-liss* -- oval ... Dave's >>>>>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dovalis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcHWZPOa3ZtKbOPX_wmNL4JcL_kDw> >>>>>>>> *toh-men-TOH-suh* -- covered with fine, matted hairs ... Dave's >>>>>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dtomentosa&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeYWjhRWObnbyLPoK9bvJWjH4Wkcg> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: woolly camphor-weed • *Sanskrit*: कलम्बिका >>>>>>>> kalambika, सिंहलतिक्त sinhalatikta • *Tamil*: கொழும்பு kolumpu, >>>>>>>> கொழும்புவேர் kolumpu-ver • *Telugu*: kalamba >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Distribution*: West Africa, Arabian peninsula, Pakistan, India >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *References*: Flowers of >>>>>>>> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWoolly%2520Camphor-Weed.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdq_ypU3n93L0v80lvfV-7NzqbxQw>• >>>>>>>> eFlora<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D5%26taxon_id%3D242426917&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc9U97iEdkA9ClkPOHpaPbViYoSwA>• >>>>>>>> ENVIS >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>> FRLHT<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fenvis.frlht.org.in%2Fbotanical_search.php%3Ftxtbtname%3DPluchea%2Btomentosa%26gesp%3D1238%257CPluchea%2Btomentosa%2BDC.&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdPOdjHKj3mxlu1jAk-AD4U_08fYw>• >>>>>>>> Floristic >>>>>>>> Survey of Institute of >>>>>>>> Science<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fiscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in%2Ffloristic%2520survey.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcUoz-zDUNsQiwoI1xlFNbeldxUlw> >>>>>>>> at Karnala Bird Sanctuary between 30 MAY 09 and 14 JAN 11 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Pluchea >>>>>>>> ovalis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5354691786%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcsy4Mbs7qiVsYnpUC7utEAsKnVwQ> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Kolumpu-ver (Tamil: >>>>>>>> கொழும்புவேர்)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4486218895%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdZLjzfFi-0GU5mAWotL52y7g948Q> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Kalambika (Sanskrit: कलम्बिका >>>>>>>> kalambika)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578555708%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfnLpm0seppm1xZ6I7htJpHnTwL0Q> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Kalamba (in >>>>>>>> Telugu)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578567064%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfewTCS2OQVIbLyt9srwCsMS5RDQg> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepi...@**googlegroups.**com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]**. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group** >>>>>>> /indiantreepix?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/**grou**ps/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to indiantreepi...@**googlegroups.**com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]**. >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group** >>>>>> /indiantreepix?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/**grou**ps/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Nidhan Singh >>>>> Assistant Professor >>>>> Department of Botany >>>>> I.B. 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