I looks both synonyms given by GRIN have problem. S. violaceum clearly has curved prickles as indicated in both description of Flora of China
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3450&flora_id=2 Important also that it includes some specimens originally included under S. indicum in earlier Floras. Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:50 AM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Sir, > > Also found photo > <http://www.pharmacy.mahidol.ac.th/siri/index.php?page=gallery_all> and > illustration > <http://www.plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=162818> > of *Solanum sanitwongsei* Craib > <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?438920#syn>. > > Thank you > > Regards > > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:04 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Sir, >> >> Found herbarium of *Solanum kurzii* - >> >> 1. from India - >> http://sonneratphoto.mnhn.fr/2012/02/17/4/P00049959.jpg (source : >> http://science.mnhn.fr/institution/mnhn/collection/p/item/p00049959) >> 2. Thailand - http://sonneratphoto.mnhn.fr/2012/02/17/4/P00049957.jpg >> (source >> http://science.mnhn.fr/institution/mnhn/collection/p/item/p00049957) >> 3. do - http://sonneratphoto.mnhn.fr/2012/02/17/4/P00049958.jpg >> (source >> http://science.mnhn.fr/institution/mnhn/collection/p/item/p00049958) >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I think I must have followed GRIN in putting S. kurzii as synonym after >>> constructing the key. Perhaps original description of S. kurzii should help. >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Good morning Sir >>>> >>>> Thank you for the updated KEY. Interestingly GRIN thinks *Solanum >>>> kurzii* Brace ex Prain >>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?457893> is synonym >>>> of *Solanum violaceum* Ortega. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Surajit ji >>>>> Stem in S. violaceum has curved prickles as per our regular key on the >>>>> website. I can't now figure out how I added S. kurzii as synonym of S. >>>>> violaceum. I have removed that now. But then S. kurzii is an East >>>>> Himalayan >>>>> species, fruits uploaded by Ritesh ji once as Tita Baingun. Perhaps you >>>>> can >>>>> explore it further. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Solanum$20kurzii/indiantreepix/YaHs79rDnIA/Vwy2pP08ULoJ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:08 AM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> KEY to Solanum in eFI informs *S. violaceum* Ortega is an unarmed >>>>>> shrub : *15a > 16b > 19b > 20b !!!* This goes against the thread - >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/dSZcm0MK01c/p_liC6fnl4YJ, >>>>>> both on 'arm' and 'flower size'. >>>>>> >>>>>> Attached here sub-reniform, foveolate seeds of this plant. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good morning Sir, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This plant is not *Solanum anguivi* Lam. as per Flora of Zimbabwe >>>>>>> and your post & discussion at - >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dSZcm0MK01c/p_liC6fnl4YJ >>>>>>> & >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/7070VSdNpTs/hWiljeLiSJ4J >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also some semi-domesticated form at - >>>>>>> http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/new/Sorting/CATALOGUE/Pt1-African-eggplants.html#Solanum-anguivi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Surajit ji >>>>>>>> These threads should help >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Solanum$20indicum$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/7070VSdNpTs/hWiljeLiSJ4J >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Solanum$20indicum$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/dSZcm0MK01c/p_liC6fnl4YJ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:11 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I must have missed some characters. I need to refresh my solanum >>>>>>>>> collection. I will upload more species later. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FoP >>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242425625> >>>>>>>>> must have updated their site after your key in - >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/7070VSdNpTs/ewa6R-1k_-YJ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FoC >>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020612> >>>>>>>>> has *S. violaceum* Ortega - with shiny orange berry, which is >>>>>>>>> similar to *S. anguivi* Lam. of FoZ >>>>>>>>> <http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/speciesdata/image-display.php?species_id=150600&image_id=4> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Flora indica, vol1, p570 informs - >>>>>>>>> *S. indicum* Willd. sp. i. 1042 (i don't know it's meaning) - >>>>>>>>> berries erect, round. smooth.... while immature variegated with >>>>>>>>> deeper and >>>>>>>>> lighter green, when ripe with deep orange yellow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> suraji >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This should be S. violaceum >>>>>>>>>> S. anguivi has mostly white flowers, less than 12 mm across, in >>>>>>>>>> many-flowered raceme like cymes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:36 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bengali name (for *S. indicum* L. >>>>>>>>>>> <http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=129865> >>>>>>>>>>> of Bengal Plants, F. B. I. & F. I.) = BYAKUR / BYAKOOR (ব্যাকুর), >>>>>>>>>>> provided >>>>>>>>>>> the ID is correct. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> for *S. indicum* L. - >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/N5lZMfghhQI/M7abCu3EZxkJ >>>>>>>>>>> 2. http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-29600269 >>>>>>>>>>> 3. http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?316358 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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