Thank you Sir. *Solanum erianthum* D. Don (*S. verbascifolium* non L. <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200020583>) is another species which was entered, in Hooker, Prain and Haines as *S. verbascifolium* L. But, *S. verbascifolium* L. is regarded as *S. donianum* Walp., by GRIN <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?101455> and FoC <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020583>.
Regards On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > The confusion is justified, as both S. anguivi and S. violaceum have S. > indicum as snonym in one form or another, obviously not very different > species. Perhaps any recent book which lists both can give a better and > conclusive key. > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:32 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Good morning Sir >> >> I have read and re-read FoC description of *S. violaceum* Ortega many >> times. Herbarium of *S. violaceum* clearly shows prickles - >> >> - >> >> https://herbarium-images.googlecode.com/hg/specimen-represent-scans/123-solanum-violaceum.jpg >> - >> >> https://herbarium-images.googlecode.com/hg/specimen-represent-scans/3477-solanum-violaceum.jpg >> - source of above - >> https://herbarium-images.googlecode.com/hg/specimen-represent-scans/ >> >> But, ENVIS has purple flowered *S. anguivi* Lam. >> http://envis.frlht.org/trade_search.php?txtpart=-&lst_part=-&txttrade=BANAFSHA&lst_trade=KATHELI-BADHI >> and >> a herbarium - http://envis.frlht.org/showherbarium.php?d=1938 (source >> http://envis.frlht.org/digital_herbarium.php?PageNo=6&StartWith=S) >> >> This is confusing, for earlier I thought my plant was closer to *S. >> anguivi* Lam. of FoP >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242425625>., >> even though it doesn't have many flowered racemes. But at the same time my >> plant neither have 'scorpioid raceme' (?) of *S. violaceum* of FoC. >> Of-course 'Prota.org' have different version >> <http://database.prota.org/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll?AC=QBE_QUERY&BU=http://database.prota.org/search.htm&TN=PROTAB~1&QB0=AND&QF0=Species+Code&QI0=Solanum+anguivi&RF=Webdisplay> >> of >> *Solanum anguivi*. >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards >> ! >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I looks both synonyms given by GRIN have problem. S. violaceum clearly >>> has curved prickles as indicated in both description of Flora of China >>> >>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3450&flora_id=2 >>> >>> Important also that it includes some specimens originally included under >>> S. indicum in earlier Floras. >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:50 AM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Sir, >>>> >>>> Also found photo >>>> <http://www.pharmacy.mahidol.ac.th/siri/index.php?page=gallery_all> >>>> and illustration >>>> <http://www.plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=162818> >>>> of *Solanum sanitwongsei* Craib >>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?438920#syn>. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:04 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sir, >>>>> >>>>> Found herbarium of *Solanum kurzii* - >>>>> >>>>> 1. from India - >>>>> http://sonneratphoto.mnhn.fr/2012/02/17/4/P00049959.jpg (source : >>>>> http://science.mnhn.fr/institution/mnhn/collection/p/item/p00049959 >>>>> ) >>>>> 2. Thailand - >>>>> http://sonneratphoto.mnhn.fr/2012/02/17/4/P00049957.jpg (source >>>>> http://science.mnhn.fr/institution/mnhn/collection/p/item/p00049957 >>>>> ) >>>>> 3. do - http://sonneratphoto.mnhn.fr/2012/02/17/4/P00049958.jpg >>>>> (source >>>>> http://science.mnhn.fr/institution/mnhn/collection/p/item/p00049958 >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think I must have followed GRIN in putting S. kurzii as synonym >>>>>> after constructing the key. Perhaps original description of S. kurzii >>>>>> should help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good morning Sir >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for the updated KEY. Interestingly GRIN thinks *Solanum >>>>>>> kurzii* Brace ex Prain >>>>>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?457893> is >>>>>>> synonym of *Solanum violaceum* Ortega. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Surajit ji >>>>>>>> Stem in S. violaceum has curved prickles as per our regular key on >>>>>>>> the website. I can't now figure out how I added S. kurzii as synonym >>>>>>>> of S. >>>>>>>> violaceum. I have removed that now. But then S. kurzii is an East >>>>>>>> Himalayan >>>>>>>> species, fruits uploaded by Ritesh ji once as Tita Baingun. Perhaps >>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>> explore it further. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Solanum$20kurzii/indiantreepix/YaHs79rDnIA/Vwy2pP08ULoJ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:08 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> KEY to Solanum in eFI informs *S. violaceum* Ortega is an unarmed >>>>>>>>> shrub : *15a > 16b > 19b > 20b !!!* This goes against the thread >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/dSZcm0MK01c/p_liC6fnl4YJ, >>>>>>>>> both on 'arm' and 'flower size'. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Attached here sub-reniform, foveolate seeds of this plant. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Good morning Sir, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This plant is not *Solanum anguivi* Lam. as per Flora of >>>>>>>>>> Zimbabwe and your post & discussion at - >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dSZcm0MK01c/p_liC6fnl4YJ >>>>>>>>>> & >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/7070VSdNpTs/hWiljeLiSJ4J >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also some semi-domesticated form at - >>>>>>>>>> http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/new/Sorting/CATALOGUE/Pt1-African-eggplants.html#Solanum-anguivi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Surajit ji >>>>>>>>>>> These threads should help >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Solanum$20indicum$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/7070VSdNpTs/hWiljeLiSJ4J >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Solanum$20indicum$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/dSZcm0MK01c/p_liC6fnl4YJ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:11 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I must have missed some characters. I need to refresh my >>>>>>>>>>>> solanum collection. I will upload more species later. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> FoP >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242425625> >>>>>>>>>>>> must have updated their site after your key in - >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/7070VSdNpTs/ewa6R-1k_-YJ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> FoC >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020612> >>>>>>>>>>>> has *S. violaceum* Ortega - with shiny orange berry, which is >>>>>>>>>>>> similar to *S. anguivi* Lam. of FoZ >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/speciesdata/image-display.php?species_id=150600&image_id=4> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Flora indica, vol1, p570 informs - >>>>>>>>>>>> *S. indicum* Willd. sp. i. 1042 (i don't know it's meaning) - >>>>>>>>>>>> berries erect, round. smooth.... while immature variegated with >>>>>>>>>>>> deeper and >>>>>>>>>>>> lighter green, when ripe with deep orange yellow. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> suraji >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be S. violaceum >>>>>>>>>>>>> S. anguivi has mostly white flowers, less than 12 mm across, >>>>>>>>>>>>> in many-flowered raceme like cymes. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:36 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bengali name (for *S. indicum* L. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=129865> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bengal Plants, F. B. I. & F. I.) = BYAKUR / BYAKOOR >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ব্যাকুর), provided >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ID is correct. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for *S. indicum* L. - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/N5lZMfghhQI/M7abCu3EZxkJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-29600269 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?316358 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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