Good morning Sir I have read and re-read FoC description of *S. violaceum* Ortega many times. Herbarium of *S. violaceum* clearly shows prickles -
- https://herbarium-images.googlecode.com/hg/specimen-represent-scans/123-solanum-violaceum.jpg - https://herbarium-images.googlecode.com/hg/specimen-represent-scans/3477-solanum-violaceum.jpg - source of above - https://herbarium-images.googlecode.com/hg/specimen-represent-scans/ But, ENVIS has purple flowered *S. anguivi* Lam. http://envis.frlht.org/trade_search.php?txtpart=-&lst_part=-&txttrade=BANAFSHA&lst_trade=KATHELI-BADHI and a herbarium - http://envis.frlht.org/showherbarium.php?d=1938 (source http://envis.frlht.org/digital_herbarium.php?PageNo=6&StartWith=S) This is confusing, for earlier I thought my plant was closer to *S. anguivi* Lam. of FoP <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242425625>., even though it doesn't have many flowered racemes. But at the same time my plant neither have 'scorpioid raceme' (?) of *S. violaceum* of FoC. Of-course 'Prota.org' have different version <http://database.prota.org/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll?AC=QBE_QUERY&BU=http://database.prota.org/search.htm&TN=PROTAB~1&QB0=AND&QF0=Species+Code&QI0=Solanum+anguivi&RF=Webdisplay> of *Solanum anguivi*. Thank you Regards ! On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > I looks both synonyms given by GRIN have problem. S. violaceum clearly has > curved prickles as indicated in both description of Flora of China > > http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3450&flora_id=2 > > Important also that it includes some specimens originally included under > S. indicum in earlier Floras. > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:50 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Sir, >> >> Also found photo >> <http://www.pharmacy.mahidol.ac.th/siri/index.php?page=gallery_all> and >> illustration >> <http://www.plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=162818> >> of *Solanum sanitwongsei* Craib >> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?438920#syn>. >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:04 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sir, >>> >>> Found herbarium of *Solanum kurzii* - >>> >>> 1. from India - >>> http://sonneratphoto.mnhn.fr/2012/02/17/4/P00049959.jpg (source : >>> http://science.mnhn.fr/institution/mnhn/collection/p/item/p00049959) >>> 2. Thailand - http://sonneratphoto.mnhn.fr/2012/02/17/4/P00049957.jpg >>> (source >>> http://science.mnhn.fr/institution/mnhn/collection/p/item/p00049957) >>> 3. do - http://sonneratphoto.mnhn.fr/2012/02/17/4/P00049958.jpg >>> (source >>> http://science.mnhn.fr/institution/mnhn/collection/p/item/p00049958) >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think I must have followed GRIN in putting S. kurzii as synonym after >>>> constructing the key. Perhaps original description of S. kurzii should >>>> help. >>>> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good morning Sir >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for the updated KEY. Interestingly GRIN thinks *Solanum >>>>> kurzii* Brace ex Prain >>>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?457893> is >>>>> synonym of *Solanum violaceum* Ortega. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Surajit ji >>>>>> Stem in S. violaceum has curved prickles as per our regular key on >>>>>> the website. I can't now figure out how I added S. kurzii as synonym of >>>>>> S. >>>>>> violaceum. I have removed that now. But then S. kurzii is an East >>>>>> Himalayan >>>>>> species, fruits uploaded by Ritesh ji once as Tita Baingun. Perhaps you >>>>>> can >>>>>> explore it further. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Solanum$20kurzii/indiantreepix/YaHs79rDnIA/Vwy2pP08ULoJ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:08 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> KEY to Solanum in eFI informs *S. violaceum* Ortega is an unarmed >>>>>>> shrub : *15a > 16b > 19b > 20b !!!* This goes against the thread - >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/dSZcm0MK01c/p_liC6fnl4YJ, >>>>>>> both on 'arm' and 'flower size'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Attached here sub-reniform, foveolate seeds of this plant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good morning Sir, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This plant is not *Solanum anguivi* Lam. as per Flora of Zimbabwe >>>>>>>> and your post & discussion at - >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dSZcm0MK01c/p_liC6fnl4YJ >>>>>>>> & >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/7070VSdNpTs/hWiljeLiSJ4J >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also some semi-domesticated form at - >>>>>>>> http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/new/Sorting/CATALOGUE/Pt1-African-eggplants.html#Solanum-anguivi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected] >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Surajit ji >>>>>>>>> These threads should help >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Solanum$20indicum$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/7070VSdNpTs/hWiljeLiSJ4J >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Solanum$20indicum$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/dSZcm0MK01c/p_liC6fnl4YJ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:11 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I must have missed some characters. I need to refresh my solanum >>>>>>>>>> collection. I will upload more species later. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FoP >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242425625> >>>>>>>>>> must have updated their site after your key in - >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/7070VSdNpTs/ewa6R-1k_-YJ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FoC >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020612> >>>>>>>>>> has *S. violaceum* Ortega - with shiny orange berry, which is >>>>>>>>>> similar to *S. anguivi* Lam. of FoZ >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/speciesdata/image-display.php?species_id=150600&image_id=4> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Flora indica, vol1, p570 informs - >>>>>>>>>> *S. indicum* Willd. sp. i. 1042 (i don't know it's meaning) - >>>>>>>>>> berries erect, round. smooth.... while immature variegated with >>>>>>>>>> deeper and >>>>>>>>>> lighter green, when ripe with deep orange yellow. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> suraji >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This should be S. violaceum >>>>>>>>>>> S. anguivi has mostly white flowers, less than 12 mm across, in >>>>>>>>>>> many-flowered raceme like cymes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:36 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bengali name (for *S. indicum* L. >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=129865> >>>>>>>>>>>> of Bengal Plants, F. B. I. & F. I.) = BYAKUR / BYAKOOR (ব্যাকুর), >>>>>>>>>>>> provided >>>>>>>>>>>> the ID is correct. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for *S. indicum* L. - >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/N5lZMfghhQI/M7abCu3EZxkJ >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-29600269 >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?316358 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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