Surajit ji Please read the comments on Satish ji's post. It is not armed at all. Regarding Flora of Pakistan, I somehow have lost confidence seeing so many mistakes. Moreover, the Indian Solanum indicum seems to be segregated into three species S. lasiocarpum, S. violaceum and S. anguivi, Flora of Pakistan is silent on S. violaceum.as well as S. lasiocarpum, let us add S. incanum to the discussion.
Flowers in S. aguivi may be mauve, purple to white in up to 20-flowered bunches, distinctly star shaped, fruits in bunches; flower 6-12 across; fruits 8-18 mm across, turning orange to red when ripe S. lasiocarpum has densely hirsute, straight prickles, infl. few flowered, flowers 2 cm across, purple to white, calyx enlarged in fruit; young fruit densely hairy, orange and 2 cm across when ripe. S. violaceum: Plants with fine hairs; prickles on stem short, broad based; leaves with straight prickles on leaves along veins, flowers up to 12; corolla blue purple sometimes white, 2 cm across; fruit orange, 1 cm across. S. incanum: though looking similar to S. violaceum, but flowers always blue-purple, only one flower bisexual, as such one fruit per infl; flower; corolla 3-3.5 cm across; berry 25-30 mm across, yellow Looking at all above I also go with S. anguivi Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:35 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > I am very much interested to know. Because, earlier I argued a lot with > Gurcharan Sir regarding a similar looking species i posted > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/mLk33P4a6EI>. > And i used a scale. > > I argued a lot with Gurcharan Sir, but I think the the flower character. > as mentioned by Sir, can be taken as an identifying feature, as can be seen > in a site dealing with solanaceae - > > - http://solanaceaesource.org/taxonomy/term/110380/media > - http://solanaceaesource.org/taxonomy/term/105603/media > > But I have a question, to know some technical detail about inflorescence. > I request Gurcharan Sir to make it easy for me - > > 1. In the description of *S. violaceum* FoC says the inflorescence is > "scorpioid raceme" and provides illustration at > http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3450&flora_id=2 where > flowers are arranged alternately on the two sides of the main axis > 2. In the description of *S. anguivi* FoP doesn't give inflo type, but > provides illustration > http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86826&flora_id=5 which > can be seen in Satish Ji's post > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/jH-HkA3GjW8, > where flowers are arranged in one side (secund) of the main axis ..... what > does this type of inflorescence called? > > Thank you > Regards > > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:45 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> I think it is S. violaceum Ortega (syn: *Solanum kurzii* Brace ex >> Prain). In S. anguivi flowers are white with often purple veins outside, >> fruit red when mature. >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> >> These two species are very closely related, only minor differences exist. >> Let me provide those differences after referring regional floras. >> The images uploaded by you seems Solanum incanum, an African species. I >> also come across the same, roadside from out skirt of Bangalore. >> Regards >> Dr. Santhan P >> >> I think this plant is different from *Solanum violaeum Orteg.* in >> many-flowered axillary cymes *vs* solitary or few flowers, also the >> fruits are shining berries, smaller in size, without much enlarged, prickly >> calyx.. >> >> However, an authentic version of distinct features from regional floras >> is awaited, Santhan Ji has assured to provide.. >> >> Regards, >> Dr. Nidhan Singh >> >> efi page on Solanum violaceum >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/solanaceae/solanum/solanum-violaceum> >> & >> Solanum anguivi >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/solanaceae/solanum/solanum-anguivi> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]> >> Date: 25 October 2014 at 13:06 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:204289] Solanum anguivi Lam SN Oct 30 >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> *Solanum anguivi Lam* (= Solanum indicum var. lividum (Link) Bitter) , >> wild herb from the hilly areas of Krishnagiri dt. 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