Thank you very much sir, I too had the doubt about the hair at the hilum.
If only there was a definitive key that bore absolutely no ambiguity.

I will take this as Abutilon indicum.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:59 PM, surajit koley <
[email protected]> wrote:

> One my request, concerning *Abutilon* in another thread
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/TRSEpDxNHCA/7XzMvXm-4B4J>,
> has not been addressed yet, leave aside met, yet I have received this mail,
> perhaps to express my view on it, view of a minnow, Huh!
>
> I agree with Dinesh Ji's view. I do not think it is or the one in
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/wzOrPt8dSyA/1h3CqyUe0xUJ is 
> *Abutilon
> pannosum*.
>
> I also do not think this is *Abutilon hirtum*.
>
> Except the hairs at hilum, which I fail to explain for want of literature,
> I think it is probably *Abutilon indicum* G. Don, where number of carpels
> can be 20 or more
> <http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/731298#page/224/mode/1up>. Yes, I
> read that FoP records, in *A. hirtum*, seed with minute shinning stellate
> hairs, more so at hilum. At the same time FoC records seeds in *A.
> indicum* are sparsely stellate.
>
> Thank you
> Regards
> surajit
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>
>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>
>> Anurag, this will not be A. pannosum, and not A.hirtum too.
>> The links you provided yesterday were helpful to know about pannosum &
>> hirtum.
>> Putting them here for quick reference:
>> *Abutilon hirtum*: herbarium
>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/herb/Abutilon%20hirtum/P1010874.JPG>
>> | description
>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Abutilon%20hirtum/245.pdf.jpg>
>> | picture
>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/field/Abutilon%20hirtum/Picture%20076.jpg>
>> *Abutilon pannosum*: herbarium
>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/herb/Abutilon%20pannosum/P1010873.JPG>
>> | description
>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Abutilon%20pannosum/246.pdf.jpg>
>> To me your posted plant is *A. indicum*.
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>  The number of mericarps (25+) and their acute tips, and emarginate
>> petals are pointing to *Abutilon hirtum*. The indumentum is supposed to
>> have viscid hairs, please check.
>> Vijay
>>  Thank you sir.
>> Here is a close up of the stem. Would you say there are viscid hair or
>> only dense simple hair?
>> Anurag N. Sharma
>>  Thanks Anurag, it looks like viscid but I cannot tell for sure from the
>> picture. When viscid glandular hairs present, it will be 'sticky' to touch.
>> Vijay
>>  It was clicked a long time back and the stem close up is something I
>> failed to click at the time!
>> If not A. hirtum, what else could it be sir?
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Anurag N. Sharma
>>
>>  nice pictures esp number 8
>> that makes it seem that it may have been sticky...
>> like some fruits of some basil do and some plectranthus do... that slight
>> dewy smallest "droplets" and they will also collect dirt..
>>
>> usha di
>>
>>    Most likely Abutilon indicum.- from Chauhan ji
>>
>>  efi pages on Abutilon indicum
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/abutilon/abutilon-indicum>
>>  &
>> Abutilon hirtum
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/abutilon/abutilon-hirtum>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]>
>> Date: 27 February 2015 at 00:16
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:216971] ANFEB39 Abutilon pannosum (please
>> validate)
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>> Family: Malvaceae
>> Date: November 2014
>> Place: Bangalore Rural
>> Reference:
>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Abutilon%20pannosum/246.pdf.jpg
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