Will do sir. ill get back to you on this. Thank you.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:40 PM, surajit koley <[email protected] > wrote: > Thank you very much Anurag Ji, I can see 23 clear mericarps in that pic. > It means *A. indicum* (L.) Sweet can have more than 20 mericarps! > > But, it doesn't mean that your species is *A. indicum*. > > Because, there are differences. One is hair on seed. Second is the > tip/beak of mericarp is not that curved and pointed as in usual *A. > indicum*. > > So, your species may be some other. But, not *A hirtum* or *A. pannosum* I > think. > > Surprisingly, we do not have records of *Abutilon bidentatum* Hochst. ex > A. Rich. in our database. FoP has description > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250071390>, > FBI very little. Can you retrieve more from somewhere? > > Thank you > Regards > surajit > > > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The number of mericarps in that photo seem to be just over 20, as in mine >> sir. >> Thank you. >> >> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 8:14 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Anurag Ji, >>> >>> I request you to count the number of mericarps in Dinesh Ji's photograph >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/6257781510 in the thread >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1E9XV3RBkZI/LdC_s8ZY-0oJ. >>> I think the species in that thread is *A. indicum*. >>> >>> I am sad that my knowledge is so little. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you very much sir, I too had the doubt about the hair at the >>>> hilum. >>>> If only there was a definitive key that bore absolutely no ambiguity. >>>> >>>> I will take this as Abutilon indicum. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:59 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> One my request, concerning *Abutilon* in another thread >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/TRSEpDxNHCA/7XzMvXm-4B4J>, >>>>> has not been addressed yet, leave aside met, yet I have received this >>>>> mail, >>>>> perhaps to express my view on it, view of a minnow, Huh! >>>>> >>>>> I agree with Dinesh Ji's view. I do not think it is or the one in >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/wzOrPt8dSyA/1h3CqyUe0xUJ is >>>>> *Abutilon pannosum*. >>>>> >>>>> I also do not think this is *Abutilon hirtum*. >>>>> >>>>> Except the hairs at hilum, which I fail to explain for want of >>>>> literature, I think it is probably *Abutilon indicum* G. Don, where number >>>>> of carpels can be 20 or more >>>>> <http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/731298#page/224/mode/1up>. Yes, >>>>> I read that FoP records, in *A. hirtum*, seed with minute shinning >>>>> stellate hairs, more so at hilum. At the same time FoC records seeds in >>>>> *A. >>>>> indicum* are sparsely stellate. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>> >>>>>> Anurag, this will not be A. pannosum, and not A.hirtum too. >>>>>> The links you provided yesterday were helpful to know about pannosum >>>>>> & hirtum. >>>>>> Putting them here for quick reference: >>>>>> *Abutilon hirtum*: herbarium >>>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/herb/Abutilon%20hirtum/P1010874.JPG> >>>>>> | description >>>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Abutilon%20hirtum/245.pdf.jpg> >>>>>> | picture >>>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/field/Abutilon%20hirtum/Picture%20076.jpg> >>>>>> *Abutilon pannosum*: herbarium >>>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/herb/Abutilon%20pannosum/P1010873.JPG> >>>>>> | description >>>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Abutilon%20pannosum/246.pdf.jpg> >>>>>> To me your posted plant is *A. indicum*. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> The number of mericarps (25+) and their acute tips, and emarginate >>>>>> petals are pointing to *Abutilon hirtum*. The indumentum is supposed >>>>>> to have viscid hairs, please check. >>>>>> Vijay >>>>>> Thank you sir. >>>>>> Here is a close up of the stem. Would you say there are viscid hair >>>>>> or only dense simple hair? >>>>>> Anurag N. Sharma >>>>>> Thanks Anurag, it looks like viscid but I cannot tell for sure from >>>>>> the picture. When viscid glandular hairs present, it will be 'sticky' to >>>>>> touch. >>>>>> Vijay >>>>>> It was clicked a long time back and the stem close up is something >>>>>> I failed to click at the time! >>>>>> If not A. hirtum, what else could it be sir? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> Anurag N. Sharma >>>>>> >>>>>> nice pictures esp number 8 >>>>>> that makes it seem that it may have been sticky... >>>>>> like some fruits of some basil do and some plectranthus do... that >>>>>> slight dewy smallest "droplets" and they will also collect dirt.. >>>>>> >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> >>>>>> Most likely Abutilon indicum.- from Chauhan ji >>>>>> >>>>>> efi pages on Abutilon indicum >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/abutilon/abutilon-indicum> >>>>>> & >>>>>> Abutilon hirtum >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/abutilon/abutilon-hirtum> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: 27 February 2015 at 00:16 >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:216971] ANFEB39 Abutilon pannosum (please >>>>>> validate) >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Family: Malvaceae >>>>>> Date: November 2014 >>>>>> Place: Bangalore Rural >>>>>> Reference: >>>>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Abutilon%20pannosum/246.pdf.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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