The number of mericarps in that photo seem to be just over 20, as in mine sir. Thank you.
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 8:14 PM, surajit koley <[email protected] > wrote: > Anurag Ji, > > I request you to count the number of mericarps in Dinesh Ji's photograph > https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/6257781510 in the thread > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1E9XV3RBkZI/LdC_s8ZY-0oJ. I > think the species in that thread is *A. indicum*. > > I am sad that my knowledge is so little. > > Thank you > Regards > surajit > > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thank you very much sir, I too had the doubt about the hair at the hilum. >> If only there was a definitive key that bore absolutely no ambiguity. >> >> I will take this as Abutilon indicum. >> >> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:59 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> One my request, concerning *Abutilon* in another thread >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/TRSEpDxNHCA/7XzMvXm-4B4J>, >>> has not been addressed yet, leave aside met, yet I have received this mail, >>> perhaps to express my view on it, view of a minnow, Huh! >>> >>> I agree with Dinesh Ji's view. I do not think it is or the one in >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/wzOrPt8dSyA/1h3CqyUe0xUJ is >>> *Abutilon pannosum*. >>> >>> I also do not think this is *Abutilon hirtum*. >>> >>> Except the hairs at hilum, which I fail to explain for want of >>> literature, I think it is probably *Abutilon indicum* G. Don, where number >>> of carpels can be 20 or more >>> <http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/731298#page/224/mode/1up>. Yes, I >>> read that FoP records, in *A. hirtum*, seed with minute shinning >>> stellate hairs, more so at hilum. At the same time FoC records seeds in *A. >>> indicum* are sparsely stellate. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> >>>> Anurag, this will not be A. pannosum, and not A.hirtum too. >>>> The links you provided yesterday were helpful to know about pannosum & >>>> hirtum. >>>> Putting them here for quick reference: >>>> *Abutilon hirtum*: herbarium >>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/herb/Abutilon%20hirtum/P1010874.JPG> >>>> | description >>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Abutilon%20hirtum/245.pdf.jpg> >>>> | picture >>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/field/Abutilon%20hirtum/Picture%20076.jpg> >>>> *Abutilon pannosum*: herbarium >>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/herb/Abutilon%20pannosum/P1010873.JPG> >>>> | description >>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Abutilon%20pannosum/246.pdf.jpg> >>>> To me your posted plant is *A. indicum*. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> The number of mericarps (25+) and their acute tips, and emarginate >>>> petals are pointing to *Abutilon hirtum*. The indumentum is supposed >>>> to have viscid hairs, please check. >>>> Vijay >>>> Thank you sir. >>>> Here is a close up of the stem. Would you say there are viscid hair or >>>> only dense simple hair? >>>> Anurag N. Sharma >>>> Thanks Anurag, it looks like viscid but I cannot tell for sure from >>>> the picture. When viscid glandular hairs present, it will be 'sticky' to >>>> touch. >>>> Vijay >>>> It was clicked a long time back and the stem close up is something I >>>> failed to click at the time! >>>> If not A. hirtum, what else could it be sir? >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> Anurag N. Sharma >>>> >>>> nice pictures esp number 8 >>>> that makes it seem that it may have been sticky... >>>> like some fruits of some basil do and some plectranthus do... that >>>> slight dewy smallest "droplets" and they will also collect dirt.. >>>> >>>> usha di >>>> >>>> Most likely Abutilon indicum.- from Chauhan ji >>>> >>>> efi pages on Abutilon indicum >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/abutilon/abutilon-indicum> >>>> & >>>> Abutilon hirtum >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/abutilon/abutilon-hirtum> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 27 February 2015 at 00:16 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:216971] ANFEB39 Abutilon pannosum (please >>>> validate) >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> Family: Malvaceae >>>> Date: November 2014 >>>> Place: Bangalore Rural >>>> Reference: >>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Abutilon%20pannosum/246.pdf.jpg >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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