Dear All I reread my previous mail and I understand that I had been rude in my reply. It is my mistake and I apologize to Mr. Surajit Koley on this thread. I will try to improve my sentiments positively from now on. I am extremely sorry for my behavior. Regards Pankaj
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Pollinia = "paired sacs of pollen > <http://botany.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/Wilson/tfp/ast/ascpage2.htm>" > & > "What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE WHICH > ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN" > The pair of statements above tells me what I pointed at = A SAC INSIDE > WHICH ONE LOBE OF PAIRED SACS OF POLLEN IS HIDDEN > > *Pollinia IS NOT EQUAL TO PAIRED SAC OF POLLEN. Pollinia is a structure > which is formed of two lobes of pollen mass adhered together with a Y > shaped caudicle also called as TRANSLATOR ARMS and gland at the end of Y > which is sticky, also called as VISCIDIUM in some cases, to get on the > insect legs or other body parts. Pollen sac is usually referred to a sac > like structure inside which these lobes hide FREELY. Basically you cannot > see the pollinia unless you take it out. Once you take it our, the pollen > sac stays back on gynostegium as it is an integral part of the gynostegium.* > > Gynostegium = "anther + stigmatic disc > <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>". > & > "what you pointed as 'what is this?' is called GYNOSTEGIUM" > The pair of statements above tells me = NUMBER OF GYNOSTEGIUM IN THE PLATE > I HAVE LABELLED IS FIVE, OF WHICH TWO ARE MARKED BY BLUE ARROWS > > *GYNOSTEGIUM IS NOT ANTHER + STIGMATIC DISC.* > *DID I TELL YOU THERE ARE 5 GYNOSTEGIUMS? Gynostegium is the complete > structure which is formed by the fusion of androecium and gynoecium. Once > fused this is a single structure that is SINGLE GYNOSTEGIUM which can have > five lobes BUT NOT 5 GYNOSTEGIUM.* > > Corona = "hood + horn <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>" > & > "Outer corona is the CORONA HOOD, inner corona is the CORONA HORN" > The pair of statements above tells me = THOSE ASCLEPIADS WHICH HAVESINGLE > CORONA > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=10066#KEY-1-18> > WILL EITHER HAVE HOOD OR HAVE HORN > > *CORONA IS NOT HOOD + HORN* > *OUTER CORONA AS PER YOUR LABEL AND INNER CORONA AS PER YOUR LABEL. I > never said there are two corona. Corona is infact part of petals modified > to form some structure which can be simple papillae as in Viola or long > appendages as in Passiflora. In your pic corona is single circle of > structure, and it can be divided into corona hood and corona horn ALSO > REFERRED TO AS CORONAL HOOD AND CORONAL HORN.* > > *So please read my comments properly before giving your interpretation.* > *Thanks* > *Pankaj* > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:00 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> What a insight inside, Dr. Pankaj! >> >> Pollinia = "paired sacs of pollen >> <http://botany.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/Wilson/tfp/ast/ascpage2.htm>" >> & >> "What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE WHICH >> ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN" >> The pair of statements above tells me what I pointed at = A SAC INSIDE >> WHICH ONE LOBE OF PAIRED SACS OF POLLEN IS HIDDEN >> >> Gynostegium = "anther + stigmatic disc >> <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>". >> & >> "what you pointed as 'what is this?' is called GYNOSTEGIUM" >> The pair of statements above tells me = NUMBER OF GYNOSTEGIUM IN THE >> PLATE I HAVE LABELLED IS FIVE, OF WHICH TWO ARE MARKED BY BLUE ARROWS >> >> Corona = "hood + horn <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>" >> & >> "Outer corona is the CORONA HOOD, inner corona is the CORONA HORN" >> The pair of statements above tells me = THOSE ASCLEPIADS WHICH HAVE SINGLE >> CORONA >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=10066#KEY-1-18> >> WILL EITHER HAVE HOOD OR HAVE HORN >> >> So kind of you, Dr. Pankaj >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> surajit koley >> a *non-botanist* member of >> efloraofIndia google group >> >> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I dont know which question mark stands for which question, but you need >>> to spend some time to find a plant in flower and open up the flower and you >>> will know where pollinia is. >>> What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE WHICH >>> ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN (PUT YOUR PENCIL TIP ON THE GLAND AND PULL >>> IT OUT TO SEE POLLINIA) and what you pointed as 'what is this?' is called >>> GYNOSTEGIUM (KIND OF A STAGE ON WHICH MALE AND FEMALE PARTS ARE LOCATED IN >>> THIS SECTION OF APOCYNACEAE). Outer corona is the CORONA HOOD, inner corona >>> is the CORONA HORN. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:09 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 21 May 2015 at 12:09 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:224761] PLEASE H E L P PLEASE >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> To make this plate I copied two photographs recorded by Anurag Ji. >>>> Please help me to understand different floral structure of an asclepiad >>>> flower. 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