Dear Pankaj Sir, I didn't mind anything at all, for I knew there was a 'communication gap'.
Cheers Thank you Regards surajit koley a *non-botanist* member of efloraofIndia google group On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear All > I reread my previous mail and I understand that I had been rude in my > reply. It is my mistake and I apologize to Mr. Surajit Koley on this > thread. I will try to improve my sentiments positively from now on. > I am extremely sorry for my behavior. > Regards > Pankaj > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Pollinia = "paired sacs of pollen >> <http://botany.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/Wilson/tfp/ast/ascpage2.htm>" >> & >> "What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE WHICH >> ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN" >> The pair of statements above tells me what I pointed at = A SAC INSIDE >> WHICH ONE LOBE OF PAIRED SACS OF POLLEN IS HIDDEN >> >> *Pollinia IS NOT EQUAL TO PAIRED SAC OF POLLEN. Pollinia is a structure >> which is formed of two lobes of pollen mass adhered together with a Y >> shaped caudicle also called as TRANSLATOR ARMS and gland at the end of Y >> which is sticky, also called as VISCIDIUM in some cases, to get on the >> insect legs or other body parts. Pollen sac is usually referred to a sac >> like structure inside which these lobes hide FREELY. Basically you cannot >> see the pollinia unless you take it out. Once you take it our, the pollen >> sac stays back on gynostegium as it is an integral part of the gynostegium.* >> >> Gynostegium = "anther + stigmatic disc >> <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>". >> & >> "what you pointed as 'what is this?' is called GYNOSTEGIUM" >> The pair of statements above tells me = NUMBER OF GYNOSTEGIUM IN THE >> PLATE I HAVE LABELLED IS FIVE, OF WHICH TWO ARE MARKED BY BLUE ARROWS >> >> *GYNOSTEGIUM IS NOT ANTHER + STIGMATIC DISC.* >> *DID I TELL YOU THERE ARE 5 GYNOSTEGIUMS? Gynostegium is the complete >> structure which is formed by the fusion of androecium and gynoecium. Once >> fused this is a single structure that is SINGLE GYNOSTEGIUM which can have >> five lobes BUT NOT 5 GYNOSTEGIUM.* >> >> Corona = "hood + horn <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>" >> & >> "Outer corona is the CORONA HOOD, inner corona is the CORONA HORN" >> The pair of statements above tells me = THOSE ASCLEPIADS WHICH HAVESINGLE >> CORONA >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=10066#KEY-1-18> >> WILL EITHER HAVE HOOD OR HAVE HORN >> >> *CORONA IS NOT HOOD + HORN* >> *OUTER CORONA AS PER YOUR LABEL AND INNER CORONA AS PER YOUR LABEL. I >> never said there are two corona. Corona is infact part of petals modified >> to form some structure which can be simple papillae as in Viola or long >> appendages as in Passiflora. In your pic corona is single circle of >> structure, and it can be divided into corona hood and corona horn ALSO >> REFERRED TO AS CORONAL HOOD AND CORONAL HORN.* >> >> *So please read my comments properly before giving your interpretation.* >> *Thanks* >> *Pankaj* >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:00 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> What a insight inside, Dr. Pankaj! >>> >>> Pollinia = "paired sacs of pollen >>> <http://botany.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/Wilson/tfp/ast/ascpage2.htm>" >>> & >>> "What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE WHICH >>> ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN" >>> The pair of statements above tells me what I pointed at = A SAC INSIDE >>> WHICH ONE LOBE OF PAIRED SACS OF POLLEN IS HIDDEN >>> >>> Gynostegium = "anther + stigmatic disc >>> <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>". >>> & >>> "what you pointed as 'what is this?' is called GYNOSTEGIUM" >>> The pair of statements above tells me = NUMBER OF GYNOSTEGIUM IN THE >>> PLATE I HAVE LABELLED IS FIVE, OF WHICH TWO ARE MARKED BY BLUE ARROWS >>> >>> Corona = "hood + horn <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>" >>> & >>> "Outer corona is the CORONA HOOD, inner corona is the CORONA HORN" >>> The pair of statements above tells me = THOSE ASCLEPIADS WHICH HAVE SINGLE >>> CORONA >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=10066#KEY-1-18> >>> WILL EITHER HAVE HOOD OR HAVE HORN >>> >>> So kind of you, Dr. Pankaj >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> surajit koley >>> a *non-botanist* member of >>> efloraofIndia google group >>> >>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I dont know which question mark stands for which question, but you need >>>> to spend some time to find a plant in flower and open up the flower and you >>>> will know where pollinia is. >>>> What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE WHICH >>>> ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN (PUT YOUR PENCIL TIP ON THE GLAND AND PULL >>>> IT OUT TO SEE POLLINIA) and what you pointed as 'what is this?' is called >>>> GYNOSTEGIUM (KIND OF A STAGE ON WHICH MALE AND FEMALE PARTS ARE LOCATED IN >>>> THIS SECTION OF APOCYNACEAE). Outer corona is the CORONA HOOD, inner corona >>>> is the CORONA HORN. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:09 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: 21 May 2015 at 12:09 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:224761] PLEASE H E L P PLEASE >>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To make this plate I copied two photographs recorded by Anurag Ji. >>>>> Please help me to understand different floral structure of an asclepiad >>>>> flower. 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