My view is if teachers are 'Sir' scientists must be double 'Sir'. Thank you Regards surajit koley a *non-botanist* member of efloraofIndia google group
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Hahaha, but theoretically I am not a teacher (I am just a small > scientist), but you are a teacher !!! I learn every day.... > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:51 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Aren't you my teacher here, Pankaj Sir? >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> surajit koley >> a *non-botanist* member of >> efloraofIndia google group >> >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Mr. Surajit >>> Thanks for the response. >>> Firstly I respect all teachers and I would prefer if you call me Pankaj >>> I am 20 years old only since more than one decade after all. >>> Secondly Orchids and Asclepiadaceae are very similar in some aspects >>> thats why I wanted to explain. The most interesting part is how and such >>> different plant family are so similar!! No one knows..... >>> Keep up with your curiosity and many interesting discoveries in the >>> world were made just because some people were more curious than others. >>> Best regards >>> Pankaj >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:33 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Pankaj Sir, >>>> >>>> I didn't mind anything at all, for I knew there was a 'communication >>>> gap'. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> surajit koley >>>> a *non-botanist* member of >>>> efloraofIndia google group >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear All >>>>> I reread my previous mail and I understand that I had been rude in my >>>>> reply. It is my mistake and I apologize to Mr. Surajit Koley on this >>>>> thread. I will try to improve my sentiments positively from now on. >>>>> I am extremely sorry for my behavior. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Pankaj >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Pollinia = "paired sacs of pollen >>>>>> <http://botany.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/Wilson/tfp/ast/ascpage2.htm>" >>>>>> & >>>>>> "What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE >>>>>> WHICH ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN" >>>>>> The pair of statements above tells me what I pointed at = A SAC >>>>>> INSIDE WHICH ONE LOBE OF PAIRED SACS OF POLLEN IS HIDDEN >>>>>> >>>>>> *Pollinia IS NOT EQUAL TO PAIRED SAC OF POLLEN. Pollinia is a >>>>>> structure which is formed of two lobes of pollen mass adhered together >>>>>> with >>>>>> a Y shaped caudicle also called as TRANSLATOR ARMS and gland at the end >>>>>> of >>>>>> Y which is sticky, also called as VISCIDIUM in some cases, to get on the >>>>>> insect legs or other body parts. Pollen sac is usually referred to a sac >>>>>> like structure inside which these lobes hide FREELY. Basically you cannot >>>>>> see the pollinia unless you take it out. Once you take it our, the pollen >>>>>> sac stays back on gynostegium as it is an integral part of the >>>>>> gynostegium.* >>>>>> >>>>>> Gynostegium = "anther + stigmatic disc >>>>>> <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>". >>>>>> & >>>>>> "what you pointed as 'what is this?' is called GYNOSTEGIUM" >>>>>> The pair of statements above tells me = NUMBER OF GYNOSTEGIUM IN THE >>>>>> PLATE I HAVE LABELLED IS FIVE, OF WHICH TWO ARE MARKED BY BLUE ARROWS >>>>>> >>>>>> *GYNOSTEGIUM IS NOT ANTHER + STIGMATIC DISC.* >>>>>> *DID I TELL YOU THERE ARE 5 GYNOSTEGIUMS? Gynostegium is the complete >>>>>> structure which is formed by the fusion of androecium and gynoecium. Once >>>>>> fused this is a single structure that is SINGLE GYNOSTEGIUM which can >>>>>> have >>>>>> five lobes BUT NOT 5 GYNOSTEGIUM.* >>>>>> >>>>>> Corona = "hood + horn <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>" >>>>>> & >>>>>> "Outer corona is the CORONA HOOD, inner corona is the CORONA HORN" >>>>>> The pair of statements above tells me = THOSE ASCLEPIADS WHICH HAVESINGLE >>>>>> CORONA >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=10066#KEY-1-18> >>>>>> WILL EITHER HAVE HOOD OR HAVE HORN >>>>>> >>>>>> *CORONA IS NOT HOOD + HORN* >>>>>> *OUTER CORONA AS PER YOUR LABEL AND INNER CORONA AS PER YOUR LABEL. I >>>>>> never said there are two corona. Corona is infact part of petals modified >>>>>> to form some structure which can be simple papillae as in Viola or long >>>>>> appendages as in Passiflora. In your pic corona is single circle of >>>>>> structure, and it can be divided into corona hood and corona horn ALSO >>>>>> REFERRED TO AS CORONAL HOOD AND CORONAL HORN.* >>>>>> >>>>>> *So please read my comments properly before giving your >>>>>> interpretation.* >>>>>> *Thanks* >>>>>> *Pankaj* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:00 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What a insight inside, Dr. Pankaj! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pollinia = "paired sacs of pollen >>>>>>> <http://botany.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/Wilson/tfp/ast/ascpage2.htm>" >>>>>>> & >>>>>>> "What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE >>>>>>> WHICH ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN" >>>>>>> The pair of statements above tells me what I pointed at = A SAC >>>>>>> INSIDE WHICH ONE LOBE OF PAIRED SACS OF POLLEN IS HIDDEN >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gynostegium = "anther + stigmatic disc >>>>>>> <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>". >>>>>>> & >>>>>>> "what you pointed as 'what is this?' is called GYNOSTEGIUM" >>>>>>> The pair of statements above tells me = NUMBER OF GYNOSTEGIUM IN THE >>>>>>> PLATE I HAVE LABELLED IS FIVE, OF WHICH TWO ARE MARKED BY BLUE ARROWS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Corona = "hood + horn <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>" >>>>>>> & >>>>>>> "Outer corona is the CORONA HOOD, inner corona is the CORONA HORN" >>>>>>> The pair of statements above tells me = THOSE ASCLEPIADS WHICH HAVE >>>>>>> SINGLE >>>>>>> CORONA >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=10066#KEY-1-18> >>>>>>> WILL EITHER HAVE HOOD OR HAVE HORN >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So kind of you, Dr. Pankaj >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>> a *non-botanist* member of >>>>>>> efloraofIndia google group >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I dont know which question mark stands for which question, but you >>>>>>>> need to spend some time to find a plant in flower and open up the >>>>>>>> flower >>>>>>>> and you will know where pollinia is. >>>>>>>> What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE >>>>>>>> WHICH ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN (PUT YOUR PENCIL TIP ON THE GLAND >>>>>>>> AND >>>>>>>> PULL IT OUT TO SEE POLLINIA) and what you pointed as 'what is this?' is >>>>>>>> called GYNOSTEGIUM (KIND OF A STAGE ON WHICH MALE AND FEMALE PARTS ARE >>>>>>>> LOCATED IN THIS SECTION OF APOCYNACEAE). Outer corona is the CORONA >>>>>>>> HOOD, >>>>>>>> inner corona is the CORONA HORN. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:09 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Date: 21 May 2015 at 12:09 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:224761] PLEASE H E L P PLEASE >>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Cc: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To make this plate I copied two photographs recorded by Anurag Ji. >>>>>>>>> Please help me to understand different floral structure of an >>>>>>>>> asclepiad >>>>>>>>> flower. 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