Hahaha, but theoretically I am not a teacher (I am just a small scientist), but you are a teacher !!! I learn every day....
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:51 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Aren't you my teacher here, Pankaj Sir? > > Thank you > Regards > surajit koley > a *non-botanist* member of > efloraofIndia google group > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dear Mr. Surajit >> Thanks for the response. >> Firstly I respect all teachers and I would prefer if you call me Pankaj I >> am 20 years old only since more than one decade after all. >> Secondly Orchids and Asclepiadaceae are very similar in some aspects >> thats why I wanted to explain. The most interesting part is how and such >> different plant family are so similar!! No one knows..... >> Keep up with your curiosity and many interesting discoveries in the world >> were made just because some people were more curious than others. >> Best regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:33 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Pankaj Sir, >>> >>> I didn't mind anything at all, for I knew there was a 'communication >>> gap'. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> surajit koley >>> a *non-botanist* member of >>> efloraofIndia google group >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear All >>>> I reread my previous mail and I understand that I had been rude in my >>>> reply. It is my mistake and I apologize to Mr. Surajit Koley on this >>>> thread. I will try to improve my sentiments positively from now on. >>>> I am extremely sorry for my behavior. >>>> Regards >>>> Pankaj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Pollinia = "paired sacs of pollen >>>>> <http://botany.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/Wilson/tfp/ast/ascpage2.htm>" >>>>> & >>>>> "What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE >>>>> WHICH ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN" >>>>> The pair of statements above tells me what I pointed at = A SAC INSIDE >>>>> WHICH ONE LOBE OF PAIRED SACS OF POLLEN IS HIDDEN >>>>> >>>>> *Pollinia IS NOT EQUAL TO PAIRED SAC OF POLLEN. Pollinia is a >>>>> structure which is formed of two lobes of pollen mass adhered together >>>>> with >>>>> a Y shaped caudicle also called as TRANSLATOR ARMS and gland at the end of >>>>> Y which is sticky, also called as VISCIDIUM in some cases, to get on the >>>>> insect legs or other body parts. Pollen sac is usually referred to a sac >>>>> like structure inside which these lobes hide FREELY. Basically you cannot >>>>> see the pollinia unless you take it out. Once you take it our, the pollen >>>>> sac stays back on gynostegium as it is an integral part of the >>>>> gynostegium.* >>>>> >>>>> Gynostegium = "anther + stigmatic disc >>>>> <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>". >>>>> & >>>>> "what you pointed as 'what is this?' is called GYNOSTEGIUM" >>>>> The pair of statements above tells me = NUMBER OF GYNOSTEGIUM IN THE >>>>> PLATE I HAVE LABELLED IS FIVE, OF WHICH TWO ARE MARKED BY BLUE ARROWS >>>>> >>>>> *GYNOSTEGIUM IS NOT ANTHER + STIGMATIC DISC.* >>>>> *DID I TELL YOU THERE ARE 5 GYNOSTEGIUMS? Gynostegium is the complete >>>>> structure which is formed by the fusion of androecium and gynoecium. Once >>>>> fused this is a single structure that is SINGLE GYNOSTEGIUM which can have >>>>> five lobes BUT NOT 5 GYNOSTEGIUM.* >>>>> >>>>> Corona = "hood + horn <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>" >>>>> & >>>>> "Outer corona is the CORONA HOOD, inner corona is the CORONA HORN" >>>>> The pair of statements above tells me = THOSE ASCLEPIADS WHICH HAVESINGLE >>>>> CORONA >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=10066#KEY-1-18> >>>>> WILL EITHER HAVE HOOD OR HAVE HORN >>>>> >>>>> *CORONA IS NOT HOOD + HORN* >>>>> *OUTER CORONA AS PER YOUR LABEL AND INNER CORONA AS PER YOUR LABEL. I >>>>> never said there are two corona. Corona is infact part of petals modified >>>>> to form some structure which can be simple papillae as in Viola or long >>>>> appendages as in Passiflora. In your pic corona is single circle of >>>>> structure, and it can be divided into corona hood and corona horn ALSO >>>>> REFERRED TO AS CORONAL HOOD AND CORONAL HORN.* >>>>> >>>>> *So please read my comments properly before giving your >>>>> interpretation.* >>>>> *Thanks* >>>>> *Pankaj* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:00 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What a insight inside, Dr. Pankaj! >>>>>> >>>>>> Pollinia = "paired sacs of pollen >>>>>> <http://botany.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/Wilson/tfp/ast/ascpage2.htm>" >>>>>> & >>>>>> "What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE >>>>>> WHICH ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN" >>>>>> The pair of statements above tells me what I pointed at = A SAC >>>>>> INSIDE WHICH ONE LOBE OF PAIRED SACS OF POLLEN IS HIDDEN >>>>>> >>>>>> Gynostegium = "anther + stigmatic disc >>>>>> <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>". >>>>>> & >>>>>> "what you pointed as 'what is this?' is called GYNOSTEGIUM" >>>>>> The pair of statements above tells me = NUMBER OF GYNOSTEGIUM IN THE >>>>>> PLATE I HAVE LABELLED IS FIVE, OF WHICH TWO ARE MARKED BY BLUE ARROWS >>>>>> >>>>>> Corona = "hood + horn <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/termfl1.htm>" >>>>>> & >>>>>> "Outer corona is the CORONA HOOD, inner corona is the CORONA HORN" >>>>>> The pair of statements above tells me = THOSE ASCLEPIADS WHICH HAVE >>>>>> SINGLE >>>>>> CORONA >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=10066#KEY-1-18> >>>>>> WILL EITHER HAVE HOOD OR HAVE HORN >>>>>> >>>>>> So kind of you, Dr. Pankaj >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>> a *non-botanist* member of >>>>>> efloraofIndia google group >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected] >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I dont know which question mark stands for which question, but you >>>>>>> need to spend some time to find a plant in flower and open up the flower >>>>>>> and you will know where pollinia is. >>>>>>> What you pointed at pollinia is not pollinia, IT IS A SAC INSIDE >>>>>>> WHICH ONE LOBE OF POLLINIA IS HIDDEN (PUT YOUR PENCIL TIP ON THE GLAND >>>>>>> AND >>>>>>> PULL IT OUT TO SEE POLLINIA) and what you pointed as 'what is this?' is >>>>>>> called GYNOSTEGIUM (KIND OF A STAGE ON WHICH MALE AND FEMALE PARTS ARE >>>>>>> LOCATED IN THIS SECTION OF APOCYNACEAE). Outer corona is the CORONA >>>>>>> HOOD, >>>>>>> inner corona is the CORONA HORN. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:09 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: 21 May 2015 at 12:09 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:224761] PLEASE H E L P PLEASE >>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Cc: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To make this plate I copied two photographs recorded by Anurag Ji. >>>>>>>> Please help me to understand different floral structure of an asclepiad >>>>>>>> flower. Please check all label and let me know which are wrongly >>>>>>>> marked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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