Thanks, Chadwell ji On 20 Dec 2016 7:36 a.m., "[email protected]" < [email protected]> wrote:
> When botanizing in the UK and able to recognise that a plant is an 'Avens' > (Geum sp.) the situation is fairly simple. Near to where I live it will be > Geum urbanum. > In other parts of the UK, in marshes, stream-sides, damp woods etc. it may > well be Geum rivale. During survey work in Wales I came across both > species together and what is known as a "hybrid swarm" being able to > recognise the hybrid Geum rivale x urbanum lnown as Geum x intermedium. > The swarms show a large range of variation with "back-crosses".... > > Let us return to Kashmir. I must admit to having taken little notice of > Geums in the Himalaya at lower elevations, as they are of rather 'weedy' > appearance, resembling Geum urbanum which I was familiar with the UK. I > did take notice of Geum elatum, which is common in Kashmir @ 3-4000m in > subalpine and alpine meadows - so not something to be found in Srinagar. > > *But there has been confusion with the Geum or perhaps Geums at lower > elevations.* > > 'Flowers of the Himalaya' Geum roylei is found @ 1800-3600m in forests & > shrubberies from Afghanistan to Central Nepal. *They say "very similar > to G.urbanum found in Europe".* > > According to Stewart *Geum roylei Boille* (syn. G.roylei Wall, G.urbanum > *Hk*. in FBI) is common in the temperate zone of Kashmir & 2-4000m which > he says is "taller & much weedier than G.elatum". > > He also says *G.urbanum L.* is common in temperate zone of Kashmir, > chiefly in the temperate zone @ 2100-3900 which he describes as "taller and > more weedy than G.roylei". > > *Flippantly, perhaps G.roylei and G.urbanum can be distinguished on their > height & 'weediness' (the latter being rather subjective)!?* > > Seriously though, I do have a set of images of Geum urbanum taken in the > UK (albeit that they may vary from the forms growing in Kashmir and will > check in case this has been recognised as varietal or subspecies level) or > now submerged into G.roylei, which might be worth posting for comparative > purposes. > > I also have a set of images of Geum elatum. > > *I see from a quick look at other postings of Geum on eFI there is only > G.roylei. There are no posts for Geum elatum, so would be worthwhile to > add images of this lovely species - though have only seen the yellow forms.* > > > *On the basis of Stewart, both sets of images taken by Aarti would be of > G.roylei but need to see the latest thinking as to whether both G.roylei > and G.urbanum are found in the Himalaya. Part of the confusion has arisen > as a result of the species name urbanum being used by both Hooker and > Linnaeus.* > > *I note that in 'Plants of Gulmarg' Naqshi, Singh & Koul (1984) they only > list G.urbanum L. as common - no mention of G.roylei* > > Further East in the Himalaya there is Geum sikkimense. > > > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 7:30:57 AM UTC+1, Aarti S. Khale wrote: > >> Dear friends, >> Posting after a very long while. >> Wild flower seen in Srinagar on 24th April,16. >> Is it Geum Species? >> Aarti >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
