Thanks a lot Chadwell Ji. Regards, Aarti On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 6:18 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, Chadwell ji > > On 20 Dec 2016 7:36 a.m., "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> When botanizing in the UK and able to recognise that a plant is an >> 'Avens' (Geum sp.) the situation is fairly simple. Near to where I live it >> will be Geum urbanum. >> In other parts of the UK, in marshes, stream-sides, damp woods etc. it >> may well be Geum rivale. During survey work in Wales I came across both >> species together and what is known as a "hybrid swarm" being able to >> recognise the hybrid Geum rivale x urbanum lnown as Geum x intermedium. >> The swarms show a large range of variation with "back-crosses".... >> >> Let us return to Kashmir. I must admit to having taken little notice of >> Geums in the Himalaya at lower elevations, as they are of rather 'weedy' >> appearance, resembling Geum urbanum which I was familiar with the UK. I >> did take notice of Geum elatum, which is common in Kashmir @ 3-4000m in >> subalpine and alpine meadows - so not something to be found in Srinagar. >> >> *But there has been confusion with the Geum or perhaps Geums at lower >> elevations.* >> >> 'Flowers of the Himalaya' Geum roylei is found @ 1800-3600m in forests & >> shrubberies from Afghanistan to Central Nepal. *They say "very similar >> to G.urbanum found in Europe".* >> >> According to Stewart *Geum roylei Boille* (syn. G.roylei Wall, G.urbanum >> *Hk*. in FBI) is common in the temperate zone of Kashmir & 2-4000m which >> he says is "taller & much weedier than G.elatum". >> >> He also says *G.urbanum L.* is common in temperate zone of Kashmir, >> chiefly in the temperate zone @ 2100-3900 which he describes as "taller and >> more weedy than G.roylei". >> >> *Flippantly, perhaps G.roylei and G.urbanum can be distinguished on their >> height & 'weediness' (the latter being rather subjective)!?* >> >> Seriously though, I do have a set of images of Geum urbanum taken in the >> UK (albeit that they may vary from the forms growing in Kashmir and will >> check in case this has been recognised as varietal or subspecies level) or >> now submerged into G.roylei, which might be worth posting for comparative >> purposes. >> >> I also have a set of images of Geum elatum. >> >> *I see from a quick look at other postings of Geum on eFI there is only >> G.roylei. There are no posts for Geum elatum, so would be worthwhile to >> add images of this lovely species - though have only seen the yellow forms.* >> >> >> *On the basis of Stewart, both sets of images taken by Aarti would be of >> G.roylei but need to see the latest thinking as to whether both G.roylei >> and G.urbanum are found in the Himalaya. Part of the confusion has arisen >> as a result of the species name urbanum being used by both Hooker and >> Linnaeus.* >> >> *I note that in 'Plants of Gulmarg' Naqshi, Singh & Koul (1984) they only >> list G.urbanum L. as common - no mention of G.roylei* >> >> Further East in the Himalaya there is Geum sikkimense. >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 7:30:57 AM UTC+1, Aarti S. Khale wrote: >> >>> Dear friends, >>> Posting after a very long while. >>> Wild flower seen in Srinagar on 24th April,16. >>> Is it Geum Species? >>> Aarti >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
