Yes Geum urbanum Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks a lot Chadwell Ji. > Regards, > Aarti > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 6:18 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Chadwell ji >> >> On 20 Dec 2016 7:36 a.m., "[email protected]" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> When botanizing in the UK and able to recognise that a plant is an >>> 'Avens' (Geum sp.) the situation is fairly simple. Near to where I live it >>> will be Geum urbanum. >>> In other parts of the UK, in marshes, stream-sides, damp woods etc. it >>> may well be Geum rivale. During survey work in Wales I came across both >>> species together and what is known as a "hybrid swarm" being able to >>> recognise the hybrid Geum rivale x urbanum lnown as Geum x intermedium. >>> The swarms show a large range of variation with "back-crosses".... >>> >>> Let us return to Kashmir. I must admit to having taken little notice >>> of Geums in the Himalaya at lower elevations, as they are of rather 'weedy' >>> appearance, resembling Geum urbanum which I was familiar with the UK. I >>> did take notice of Geum elatum, which is common in Kashmir @ 3-4000m in >>> subalpine and alpine meadows - so not something to be found in Srinagar. >>> >>> *But there has been confusion with the Geum or perhaps Geums at lower >>> elevations.* >>> >>> 'Flowers of the Himalaya' Geum roylei is found @ 1800-3600m in forests >>> & shrubberies from Afghanistan to Central Nepal. *They say "very >>> similar to G.urbanum found in Europe".* >>> >>> According to Stewart *Geum roylei Boille* (syn. G.roylei Wall, >>> G.urbanum *Hk*. in FBI) is common in the temperate zone of Kashmir & >>> 2-4000m which he says is "taller & much weedier than G.elatum". >>> >>> He also says *G.urbanum L.* is common in temperate zone of Kashmir, >>> chiefly in the temperate zone @ 2100-3900 which he describes as "taller and >>> more weedy than G.roylei". >>> >>> *Flippantly, perhaps G.roylei and G.urbanum can be distinguished on >>> their height & 'weediness' (the latter being rather subjective)!?* >>> >>> Seriously though, I do have a set of images of Geum urbanum taken in the >>> UK (albeit that they may vary from the forms growing in Kashmir and will >>> check in case this has been recognised as varietal or subspecies level) or >>> now submerged into G.roylei, which might be worth posting for comparative >>> purposes. >>> >>> I also have a set of images of Geum elatum. >>> >>> *I see from a quick look at other postings of Geum on eFI there is only >>> G.roylei. There are no posts for Geum elatum, so would be worthwhile to >>> add images of this lovely species - though have only seen the yellow forms.* >>> >>> >>> *On the basis of Stewart, both sets of images taken by Aarti would be of >>> G.roylei but need to see the latest thinking as to whether both G.roylei >>> and G.urbanum are found in the Himalaya. Part of the confusion has arisen >>> as a result of the species name urbanum being used by both Hooker and >>> Linnaeus.* >>> >>> *I note that in 'Plants of Gulmarg' Naqshi, Singh & Koul (1984) they >>> only list G.urbanum L. as common - no mention of G.roylei* >>> >>> Further East in the Himalaya there is Geum sikkimense. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 7:30:57 AM UTC+1, Aarti S. Khale wrote: >>> >>>> Dear friends, >>>> Posting after a very long while. >>>> Wild flower seen in Srinagar on 24th April,16. >>>> Is it Geum Species? >>>> Aarti >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
