1. read S. sinensis for S. spiranthes On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 6:48:19 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote:
> Thanks Garg ji for bringing up old interesting conversation (now locked). > Only Pankaj can resolve it for us. I have 22 more images which I can share > with Pankaj ji if he wants: But these do suggest S. himalayensis: > 1. Flowering (clicked) in May (vs flowering August to Septtember in India > in S. spiranthes) > 2. I can see densely pubescent inflorescence with some glandular hairs (vs > pubescent to glabrous in S. sinensis) > 3. Flower completely white (vs pink or purple, tip sometimes white in S. > sinensis) > > More of course Pankaj would give final verdict. > > > On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 4:50:19 PM UTC+5:30 Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote: > >> Spiranthes australis is not found in India. It is not easy to confirm >> this. Recently Spiranthes hongkongensis was reported from Nepal so there >> are chances of having it in India too. Some details needed to confirm. >> Please check the pdf attached. >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 at 23:34, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Flora of China >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200028827> also >>> supports this. >>> >>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 at 20:58, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> As per efi thread >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/1v4wWBkaXSY> >>>> : >>>> In Flora of British India the species was described under the name >>>> *Spiranthes >>>> australis* (R. Br.) Lindl., A species name (rather combination) >>>> proposed in 1824, based on *Neottia australis* R. Br. (1810), a >>>> species supposed to have pubescent inflorescence spike (it is also >>>> supposed to have pubescent bracts and floral parts partly as I read from >>>> other sources). >>>> *Spiranthes sinensis* (Pers.) Ames, is a name (rather combination) >>>> given in 1908, based on *Neottia sinensis* Pers. (1807), a species >>>> described from China and differing in glabrous spikes (and bracts and >>>> floral parts). >>>> It has recently been considered by most authors (including Flora of >>>> China, Flora of Pakistan, etc.) that these two taxa are synonyms, and as >>>> basionym of latter is dated earlier, *Spiranthes sinensis* is accepted >>>> name. >>>> >>>> It must be remembered that it is matter of taxonomic judgement (and not >>>> a simple issue of names), as the two species were originally described as >>>> distinct species (they have distinct types). For those who consider the >>>> differences are not enough would treat them under single species* S. >>>> sinensis*. Those who think (like original authors) that differences >>>> are sufficient, and are also trying to detect further differences to >>>> strengthen their distinct identity, would consider them as two separate >>>> species. I think … is just trying to do that, trying to settle the riddle, >>>> and he being a world renowned Orchid specialist is both qualified to do >>>> that. More so he owes the duty of resolving it for us. Let us appreciate >>>> that. >>>> >>>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 20:32, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Singh ji, for the six detailed images >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/zAzXn59BJmU>. >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 21:49 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:412559] Spiranthes australis from Himachal >>>>> Pradesh-GS16012022-5 >>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Spiranthes australis clicked from along Bhangayani Temple Nohradhar >>>>> Road, Himachal Pradesh, 25-5-2015 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpUZ8QmC-pMk1X1uir0dtNfSkDPgP7E8dwrynGCRRhL8RA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpUZ8QmC-pMk1X1uir0dtNfSkDPgP7E8dwrynGCRRhL8RA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >> >> 32, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen, Lam Tsuen, >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >> >> *email*: [email protected] >> *Phone*: +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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