Thanks, Taffazull ji.
What about I'd?
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With regards,
J. M. Garg

On Sun, 19 Mar, 2023, 17:31 [email protected], <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Some more photos:
> Photo1 : Capsule with short 2.5 mm pedicel (small square =1mm)
> Photo2: Upper wall of capsule removed to show  two locules and axile
> placentation.
> Photo 3: 2 seeds removed.
> Photo4: All 4 seeds removed and empty capsule.
> With regards
> Taffazull
>
> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 11:01:39 AM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote:
>
>> Ok, Taffazull ji
>>
>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 at 22:38, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Some clarifications:
>>> 1. The vernacular name is I think best spelled as "*Zow ghas*" *Zow *rhyming
>>> with "how" and translated as"louse weed".
>>> 2, I had written hairy stigma but actually these are not hairs but
>>> elongated papillary cells
>>> 3.The capsule has 4 seeds and placentation is axile. I will post the
>>> photos in due course.
>>> Regards
>>> Taffazull
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:03:29 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> According to Wikipedia corolla of V .hederifolia is 1 cm i.e 10 mm wide
>>>> and blue in color but corolla of this plant is just about 1mm wide.and
>>>> pinkish white.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Taffazull
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 4:11:38 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected]
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Garg ji,
>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion,
>>>>> I think  it cant be *V.hederifolia  *because as Gurcharan ji has
>>>>> pointed out  in another post the pedicels of *hederifolia *are long
>>>>> but in this plant they are barely 1-2 mm long. This is apart from the fact
>>>>> that it does not occur in the Himalayas. Gurcharan ji in another post  has
>>>>> mentioned another Himalayan plant *V.stewartii  *which has 3 lobed
>>>>> leaves and short pedicels. However there are no details given so as
>>>>> to  ascertain whether  it is V.stewartii or not. Information about the
>>>>> shape of the ovary would be very helpful as most veronicas have flattened
>>>>> ovaries but this plant has a globose ovary. Further in this plant all the
>>>>> four lobes of the corolla are almost of equal size.
>>>>> A local villager told me that villagers call it *"Zaw Ghas" *literally
>>>>> meaning "Lice grass". I think this is so called because its tiny pinkish
>>>>> white flowers resemble lice.
>>>>> With regards
>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:42:33 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks different from similar looking species like as per images at
>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/05/veronica-persica/
>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/05/veronica-didyma/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To me appears close to images (reported introduced in India) as per
>>>>>> images and details
>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2019/03/19/veronica-hederifolia/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 at 16:02, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear members,
>>>>>>> Am posting photos of a plant growing on the side of a path in
>>>>>>> Srinagar . The photos were taken very recently. It is a hairy herb. The
>>>>>>> flowers are minute about 1-2mm long with pinkish white corolla. Because 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> their small size  they look like dust specks to the naked eye and can 
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> be examined properly with a magnifying glass. All photos of flowers 
>>>>>>> unless
>>>>>>> mentioned were taken from specimens put under a dissecting microscope. 
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> has four lobes of very hairy calyx divided to base. The four lobes of
>>>>>>> corolla (1-1.5mm) are divided to 3/4 of the length. Two stamens with
>>>>>>> filaments 1mm long bearing minute anthers are adnate to the corolla, The
>>>>>>> ovary differs from that of Veronicas in being globose. The style ends 
>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>> very hairy stigma. Would request the members to suggest the correct ID 
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> this herb.
>>>>>>> Photo1 and Photo 2 are the plants (Each small square of graph
>>>>>>> paper=1mm)
>>>>>>> Photo 3 is  a view of the flower
>>>>>>> Photo5 shows the two stamens adnate to corolla just as in *Veronica
>>>>>>> persica*
>>>>>>> Photo 8 is a photo of a mature fruit
>>>>>>> With Regards
>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>
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