Dear Garg ji, For ID with my limited expertise I would like the opinion of the respected experts of this group. I have tried to post as much detail as possible to help the experts to arrive at the ID.Will post one more photo to show that unlike most veronicas the corolla lobes are almost of equal size only the lowest is perhaps slightly smaller. Seems at least for this group it is a new addition.Could be a new record for Srinagar. Hope some expert member will provide more clarity With sincere regards Taffazull
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:02:32 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: > Thanks, Taffazull ji. > What about I'd? > -- > With regards, > J. M. Garg > > On Sun, 19 Mar, 2023, 17:31 [email protected], <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Some more photos: >> Photo1 : Capsule with short 2.5 mm pedicel (small square =1mm) >> Photo2: Upper wall of capsule removed to show two locules and axile >> placentation. >> Photo 3: 2 seeds removed. >> Photo4: All 4 seeds removed and empty capsule. >> With regards >> Taffazull >> >> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 11:01:39 AM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >> >>> Ok, Taffazull ji >>> >>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 at 22:38, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Some clarifications: >>>> 1. The vernacular name is I think best spelled as "*Zow ghas*" *Zow >>>> *rhyming >>>> with "how" and translated as"louse weed". >>>> 2, I had written hairy stigma but actually these are not hairs but >>>> elongated papillary cells >>>> 3.The capsule has 4 seeds and placentation is axile. I will post the >>>> photos in due course. >>>> Regards >>>> Taffazull >>>> >>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:03:29 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> According to Wikipedia corolla of V .hederifolia is 1 cm i.e 10 mm >>>>> wide and blue in color but corolla of this plant is just about 1mm >>>>> wide.and >>>>> pinkish white. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Taffazull >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 4:11:38 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Garg ji, >>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion, >>>>>> I think it cant be *V.hederifolia *because as Gurcharan ji has >>>>>> pointed out in another post the pedicels of *hederifolia *are long >>>>>> but in this plant they are barely 1-2 mm long. This is apart from the >>>>>> fact >>>>>> that it does not occur in the Himalayas. Gurcharan ji in another post >>>>>> has >>>>>> mentioned another Himalayan plant *V.stewartii *which has 3 lobed >>>>>> leaves and short pedicels. However there are no details given so as >>>>>> to ascertain whether it is V.stewartii or not. Information about the >>>>>> shape of the ovary would be very helpful as most veronicas have >>>>>> flattened >>>>>> ovaries but this plant has a globose ovary. Further in this plant all >>>>>> the >>>>>> four lobes of the corolla are almost of equal size. >>>>>> A local villager told me that villagers call it *"Zaw Ghas" *literally >>>>>> meaning "Lice grass". I think this is so called because its tiny pinkish >>>>>> white flowers resemble lice. >>>>>> With regards >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:42:33 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks different from similar looking species like as per images at >>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/05/veronica-persica/ >>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/05/veronica-didyma/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To me appears close to images (reported introduced in India) as per >>>>>>> images and details >>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2019/03/19/veronica-hederifolia/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 at 16:02, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>> Am posting photos of a plant growing on the side of a path in >>>>>>>> Srinagar . The photos were taken very recently. It is a hairy herb. >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> flowers are minute about 1-2mm long with pinkish white corolla. >>>>>>>> Because of >>>>>>>> their small size they look like dust specks to the naked eye and can >>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>> be examined properly with a magnifying glass. All photos of flowers >>>>>>>> unless >>>>>>>> mentioned were taken from specimens put under a dissecting microscope. >>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>> has four lobes of very hairy calyx divided to base. The four lobes of >>>>>>>> corolla (1-1.5mm) are divided to 3/4 of the length. Two stamens with >>>>>>>> filaments 1mm long bearing minute anthers are adnate to the corolla, >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> ovary differs from that of Veronicas in being globose. The style ends >>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>> very hairy stigma. Would request the members to suggest the correct ID >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> this herb. >>>>>>>> Photo1 and Photo 2 are the plants (Each small square of graph >>>>>>>> paper=1mm) >>>>>>>> Photo 3 is a view of the flower >>>>>>>> Photo5 shows the two stamens adnate to corolla just as in *Veronica >>>>>>>> persica* >>>>>>>> Photo 8 is a photo of a mature fruit >>>>>>>> With Regards >>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b5933e99-008e-4650-8cad-0197e71216e7n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b5933e99-008e-4650-8cad-0197e71216e7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a2e3e5b0-5990-4025-9908-ed422ffcb261n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a2e3e5b0-5990-4025-9908-ed422ffcb261n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/edbc85e1-0e9b-4bbf-a432-4e4fe7ca550cn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/edbc85e1-0e9b-4bbf-a432-4e4fe7ca550cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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