Better images of V. polita here https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/KV8xLo9NdmM/m/rXpGrDkfF0MJ
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 12:55:34 AM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Taffazul ji > Your plant is clearly V. stewartii. > See my post, I could get hold of herbarium sheet only, no live images. > Good you got live images. > > https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/e4kuquT6w_A/m/xEmu8FNGBgAJ > > My V. polita is here as of now > https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/x_7-i6Xa45c/m/RITpuWhGBgAJ > > On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:56:58 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote: > >> Dear Garg ji, >> For ID with my limited expertise I would like the opinion of the >> respected experts of this group. >> I have tried to post as much detail as possible to help the experts to >> arrive at the ID.Will post one more photo to show that unlike most >> veronicas the corolla lobes are almost of equal size only the lowest is >> perhaps slightly smaller. >> Seems at least for this group it is a new addition.Could be a new record >> for Srinagar. >> Hope some expert member will provide more clarity >> With sincere regards >> Taffazull >> >> >> >> On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:02:32 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Taffazull ji. >>> What about I'd? >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J. M. Garg >>> >>> On Sun, 19 Mar, 2023, 17:31 [email protected], <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Some more photos: >>>> Photo1 : Capsule with short 2.5 mm pedicel (small square =1mm) >>>> Photo2: Upper wall of capsule removed to show two locules and axile >>>> placentation. >>>> Photo 3: 2 seeds removed. >>>> Photo4: All 4 seeds removed and empty capsule. >>>> With regards >>>> Taffazull >>>> >>>> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 11:01:39 AM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ok, Taffazull ji >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 at 22:38, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Some clarifications: >>>>>> 1. The vernacular name is I think best spelled as "*Zow ghas*" *Zow >>>>>> *rhyming >>>>>> with "how" and translated as"louse weed". >>>>>> 2, I had written hairy stigma but actually these are not hairs but >>>>>> elongated papillary cells >>>>>> 3.The capsule has 4 seeds and placentation is axile. I will post the >>>>>> photos in due course. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:03:29 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> According to Wikipedia corolla of V .hederifolia is 1 cm i.e 10 mm >>>>>>> wide and blue in color but corolla of this plant is just about 1mm >>>>>>> wide.and >>>>>>> pinkish white. >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 4:11:38 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Garg ji, >>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion, >>>>>>>> I think it cant be *V.hederifolia *because as Gurcharan ji has >>>>>>>> pointed out in another post the pedicels of *hederifolia *are >>>>>>>> long but in this plant they are barely 1-2 mm long. This is apart from >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> fact that it does not occur in the Himalayas. Gurcharan ji in another >>>>>>>> post >>>>>>>> has mentioned another Himalayan plant *V.stewartii *which has 3 >>>>>>>> lobed leaves and short pedicels. However there are no details >>>>>>>> given so as to ascertain whether it is V.stewartii or not. >>>>>>>> Information >>>>>>>> about the shape of the ovary would be very helpful as most veronicas >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> flattened ovaries but this plant has a globose ovary. Further in this >>>>>>>> plant >>>>>>>> all the four lobes of the corolla are almost of equal size. >>>>>>>> A local villager told me that villagers call it *"Zaw Ghas" *literally >>>>>>>> meaning "Lice grass". I think this is so called because its tiny >>>>>>>> pinkish >>>>>>>> white flowers resemble lice. >>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:42:33 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looks different from similar looking species like as per images at >>>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/05/veronica-persica/ >>>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/05/veronica-didyma/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To me appears close to images (reported introduced in India) as >>>>>>>>> per images and details >>>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2019/03/19/veronica-hederifolia/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 at 16:02, [email protected] < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>>> Am posting photos of a plant growing on the side of a path in >>>>>>>>>> Srinagar . The photos were taken very recently. It is a hairy herb. >>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>> flowers are minute about 1-2mm long with pinkish white corolla. >>>>>>>>>> Because of >>>>>>>>>> their small size they look like dust specks to the naked eye and >>>>>>>>>> can only >>>>>>>>>> be examined properly with a magnifying glass. All photos of flowers >>>>>>>>>> unless >>>>>>>>>> mentioned were taken from specimens put under a dissecting >>>>>>>>>> microscope. It >>>>>>>>>> has four lobes of very hairy calyx divided to base. The four lobes >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> corolla (1-1.5mm) are divided to 3/4 of the length. Two stamens with >>>>>>>>>> filaments 1mm long bearing minute anthers are adnate to the corolla, >>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>> ovary differs from that of Veronicas in being globose. The style >>>>>>>>>> ends in a >>>>>>>>>> very hairy stigma. Would request the members to suggest the correct >>>>>>>>>> ID if >>>>>>>>>> this herb. >>>>>>>>>> Photo1 and Photo 2 are the plants (Each small square of graph >>>>>>>>>> paper=1mm) >>>>>>>>>> Photo 3 is a view of the flower >>>>>>>>>> Photo5 shows the two stamens adnate to corolla just as in *Veronica >>>>>>>>>> persica* >>>>>>>>>> Photo 8 is a photo of a mature fruit >>>>>>>>>> With Regards >>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b5933e99-008e-4650-8cad-0197e71216e7n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b5933e99-008e-4650-8cad-0197e71216e7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a2e3e5b0-5990-4025-9908-ed422ffcb261n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a2e3e5b0-5990-4025-9908-ed422ffcb261n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/edbc85e1-0e9b-4bbf-a432-4e4fe7ca550cn%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/edbc85e1-0e9b-4bbf-a432-4e4fe7ca550cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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