Taffazul ji Your plant is clearly V. stewartii. See my post, I could get hold of herbarium sheet only, no live images. Good you got live images.
https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/e4kuquT6w_A/m/xEmu8FNGBgAJ My V. polita is here as of now https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/x_7-i6Xa45c/m/RITpuWhGBgAJ On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:56:58 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote: > Dear Garg ji, > For ID with my limited expertise I would like the opinion of the respected > experts of this group. > I have tried to post as much detail as possible to help the experts to > arrive at the ID.Will post one more photo to show that unlike most > veronicas the corolla lobes are almost of equal size only the lowest is > perhaps slightly smaller. > Seems at least for this group it is a new addition.Could be a new record > for Srinagar. > Hope some expert member will provide more clarity > With sincere regards > Taffazull > > > > On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:02:32 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: > >> Thanks, Taffazull ji. >> What about I'd? >> -- >> With regards, >> J. M. Garg >> >> On Sun, 19 Mar, 2023, 17:31 [email protected], <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Some more photos: >>> Photo1 : Capsule with short 2.5 mm pedicel (small square =1mm) >>> Photo2: Upper wall of capsule removed to show two locules and axile >>> placentation. >>> Photo 3: 2 seeds removed. >>> Photo4: All 4 seeds removed and empty capsule. >>> With regards >>> Taffazull >>> >>> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 11:01:39 AM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, Taffazull ji >>>> >>>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 at 22:38, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Some clarifications: >>>>> 1. The vernacular name is I think best spelled as "*Zow ghas*" *Zow >>>>> *rhyming >>>>> with "how" and translated as"louse weed". >>>>> 2, I had written hairy stigma but actually these are not hairs but >>>>> elongated papillary cells >>>>> 3.The capsule has 4 seeds and placentation is axile. I will post the >>>>> photos in due course. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Taffazull >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:03:29 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> According to Wikipedia corolla of V .hederifolia is 1 cm i.e 10 mm >>>>>> wide and blue in color but corolla of this plant is just about 1mm >>>>>> wide.and >>>>>> pinkish white. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 4:11:38 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Garg ji, >>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion, >>>>>>> I think it cant be *V.hederifolia *because as Gurcharan ji has >>>>>>> pointed out in another post the pedicels of *hederifolia *are long >>>>>>> but in this plant they are barely 1-2 mm long. This is apart from the >>>>>>> fact >>>>>>> that it does not occur in the Himalayas. Gurcharan ji in another post >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> mentioned another Himalayan plant *V.stewartii *which has 3 lobed >>>>>>> leaves and short pedicels. However there are no details given so as >>>>>>> to ascertain whether it is V.stewartii or not. Information about the >>>>>>> shape of the ovary would be very helpful as most veronicas have >>>>>>> flattened >>>>>>> ovaries but this plant has a globose ovary. Further in this plant all >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> four lobes of the corolla are almost of equal size. >>>>>>> A local villager told me that villagers call it *"Zaw Ghas" *literally >>>>>>> meaning "Lice grass". I think this is so called because its tiny >>>>>>> pinkish >>>>>>> white flowers resemble lice. >>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:42:33 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks different from similar looking species like as per images at >>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/05/veronica-persica/ >>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/05/veronica-didyma/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To me appears close to images (reported introduced in India) as per >>>>>>>> images and details >>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2019/03/19/veronica-hederifolia/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 at 16:02, [email protected] < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>> Am posting photos of a plant growing on the side of a path in >>>>>>>>> Srinagar . The photos were taken very recently. It is a hairy herb. >>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>> flowers are minute about 1-2mm long with pinkish white corolla. >>>>>>>>> Because of >>>>>>>>> their small size they look like dust specks to the naked eye and can >>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>> be examined properly with a magnifying glass. All photos of flowers >>>>>>>>> unless >>>>>>>>> mentioned were taken from specimens put under a dissecting >>>>>>>>> microscope. It >>>>>>>>> has four lobes of very hairy calyx divided to base. The four lobes of >>>>>>>>> corolla (1-1.5mm) are divided to 3/4 of the length. Two stamens with >>>>>>>>> filaments 1mm long bearing minute anthers are adnate to the corolla, >>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>> ovary differs from that of Veronicas in being globose. The style ends >>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>> very hairy stigma. Would request the members to suggest the correct >>>>>>>>> ID if >>>>>>>>> this herb. >>>>>>>>> Photo1 and Photo 2 are the plants (Each small square of graph >>>>>>>>> paper=1mm) >>>>>>>>> Photo 3 is a view of the flower >>>>>>>>> Photo5 shows the two stamens adnate to corolla just as in *Veronica >>>>>>>>> persica* >>>>>>>>> Photo 8 is a photo of a mature fruit >>>>>>>>> With Regards >>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b5933e99-008e-4650-8cad-0197e71216e7n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b5933e99-008e-4650-8cad-0197e71216e7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a2e3e5b0-5990-4025-9908-ed422ffcb261n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a2e3e5b0-5990-4025-9908-ed422ffcb261n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/edbc85e1-0e9b-4bbf-a432-4e4fe7ca550cn%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/edbc85e1-0e9b-4bbf-a432-4e4fe7ca550cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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