Thanks very very much, Mahadeswara ji, for helping in coining and validating the Kannada name for this plant. Regards. Dinesh
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: M Swamy <[email protected]> Date: Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:458551] Names of Plants in India :: Neuracanthus trinervius To: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> Dear Diesh ji, Kannada name & English transliteration are correct.. Thanks& Regards, On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 9:45 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp.* trinervius* (Wight) Bidgood & > Brummitt > [image: Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus subsp. trinervius (Wight) Bidgood & > Brummitt] > > ¿ *nyur-uh-KANTH-us* ? -- Greek: *neuron* (vein, nerve); *ákantha* > (thorn, spine); spiny vein ... Dave's Botanary > <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> > ¿ *tet-ra-gon-uh-STAK-ee-us* ? -- from the Greek *tetragono* > (four-angled) and *stachys* (flower spike) ... Dave's Botanary > <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> > ¿ *try-NER-vee-us* ? -- three-veined ... Dave's Botanary > <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> > > *commonly known as*: three-veined neuracanthus • *Gujarati*: મોટા ગંઠેર > mota ganther • *Kannada*: ನೀಲಿ ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi • *Marathi*: > निळगोंडा nilgonda > > > *botanical names*: *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp. *trinervius* > (Wight) Bidgood & Brummitt ... *homotypic synonyms*: *Neuracanthus > trinervius* Wight ... POWO <https://powo.science.kew.org/>, retrieved 21 > November 2023 > Bibliography / etymology > Links listed as references in the notes below, may not remain valid > permanently. Portals / websites have a tendency to re-organize / revise > their content, leading to change in URLs of pages in their site. Some sites > may even close down at their own will. > ~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~ > written and spoken widely, in most parts of India > *three-veined neuracanthus* > > - name coined, for want of name; derived from the epithet *trinervius*, > three-veined, referring to the leaf > > ~~~~~ GUJARATI ~~~~~ > written in: *Gujarati* (ગુજરાતી) ... spoken in: *Gujarat*, *Dadra & Nagar > Haveli*, *Daman & Diu* > *મોટા ગંઠેર mota ganther* > > - name coined, for want of name; મોટા mota = big; ગંઠેર ganther = name > given to *Neuracanthus sphaerostachyus* Dalz. > > ~~~~~ MARATHI ~~~~~ > written in: *Devanagari* (मराठी) ... spoken in: *Maharashtra*, Karnataka > *निळगोंडा nilgonda* > > - name coined, for want of name, by Shrikant Ingalhalikar, the author > of *Further Flowers of Sahyadri*, the second among the three field > guides to identify plants of northern Western Ghats of India, based on > flowers > > ~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~ > written in: *Kannada* (ಕನ್ನಡ) ... spoken in: *Karnataka* > *ನೀಲಿ ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi* > > - name coined, for want of name; many thanks to Dr Mahadeswara Swamy > for help with this name ... efloraofindia > <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/oonCoKVYa1c> ... ನೀಲಿ > ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi = blue flower stick > > ~~~~~ DISTRIBUTION in INDIA ~~~~~ > Gujarat, Karnataka, Maharashtra; endemic > > - Rana, Karan & Nagar, Padamnabhi. (2017). DIVERSITY AND DISTRIBUTION > OF ENDEMIC ANGIOSPERMS IN GUJARAT. > > <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318374385_DIVERSITY_AND_DISTRIBUTION_OF_ENDEMIC_ANGIOSPERMS_IN_GUJARAT> > International Journal of Advanced Research. 5. 730-758. > 10.21474/IJAR01/4472. > - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A Checklist, > Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. > > <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf> > 1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board) > - Hassler, Michael (2004 - 2023): World Plants. Synonymic Checklist > and Distribution of the World Flora. > <https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/complete-plant-list> > Version 18.1; last update Nov. 18th, 2023. Last accessed 21/11/2023. > > ~~~~~ Last updated: 21-11-2023 ~~~~~ > > > > > > Names compiled / updated at > https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/11/neuracanthus-tetragonostachyus-subsp.html > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 9:42 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Names compiled / updated at >> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/11/neuracanthus-tetragonostachyus-subsp.html >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Wednesday, 5 October 2011 at 17:12:35 UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: >> >>> That is really nice of you Gibby ji >>> I think I should help us a lot >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Many thanks Giby ji. >>>> Could see only the abstract at JSTOR. >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Please find attached herewith the paper that Gurcharan ji was >>>>> referring to. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Giby >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 5 October 2011 16:47, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dinesh ji >>>>>> The combination was made in an important paper in 1998 by Sally >>>>>> Bidgood >>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=authors%3A%22Sally%20Bidgood%22&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>> and R K Brummitt >>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=authors%3A%22R%20K%20Brummitt%22&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>> . Kew Bulletin >>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=latest%3AKew+Bulletin&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>> *53*(1): 1-76 >>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=issn%3A0075-5974+vol%3A53+issue%3A1&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>> (1998) >>>>>> in which they revised the whole genus. Simply because The Plant List >>>>>> have not been able to resolve it (not rejected it) it is logical that we >>>>>> follow the combination >>>>>> *Neuracanthus* *tetragonostachyus* Nees >>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=6888-1&back_page=> >>>>>> subsp. *trinervius* ( Wight >>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=11658-1&back_page=> ) >>>>>> Bidgood >>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=14316-1&back_page=> & >>>>>> Brummitt >>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=1221-1&back_page=> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is small summary from the revision >>>>>> The genus Neuracanthus is divided into 3 sections; 30 species are >>>>>> recognised, with a further 5 >>>>>> subspecies and 3 varieties. From tropical Asia (India to Vietnam) 4 >>>>>> species and one subspecies are recognised, all referred to sect. >>>>>> Neuracanthus which also has two species in north and northeast Africa. >>>>>> Fr... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> OK HS. >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:04 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The type of Neuracanthus is N. tetragonostachyus and in The Plant >>>>>>>> list it is put as the unresolved name or synonym with some Justicia >>>>>>>> species >>>>>>>> i guess which is mistaken for N. tetragonostachys instead of N. >>>>>>>> tetragonostachyus Nees. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> now coming to the name N. trinervius Wight, i consider it is the >>>>>>>> correct name instead of putting under species tetragonostachyus >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus* *tetragonostachyus* subsp. *trinervius* (Wight) >>>>>>>>> Bidgood is an unresolved species name according to "the plant list" >>>>>>>>> but has >>>>>>>>> listed *Neuracanthus trinervius *as a synonym of this species. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Giby >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 5 October 2011 15:50, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> if N. trinervis is synonym, than what is the correct name.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> pls help >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> via Species >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> >>>>>>>>>>> > N >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/n> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus trinervius* Wight >>>>>>>>>>> [image: Neuracanthus trinervius Wight] >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2115040164/> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [image: Flowers of India] >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Nilgonda.html> [image: >>>>>>>>>>> Discussions at efloraofindia] >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Neuracanthus%20trinervius> >>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>> more views in flickr] >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Neuracanthustrinervius&m=tags&z=m> >>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>> more views on Google Earth] >>>>>>>>>>> <http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/&tags=Neuracanthustrinervius&format=kml_nl> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *NYUR-uh-KANTH-us* -- spiny vein >>>>>>>>>>> *try-NER-vee-us* -- three-veined >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: three-veined neuracanthus >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/three-veined-neuracanthus> >>>>>>>>>>> • *Marathi*: निळगोंडा nilgonda >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/nilagonda-nilgonda> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *botanical names*: *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp. >>>>>>>>>>> *trinervius* (Wight) Bidgood *[unresolved]* ... *synonym*: >>>>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus >>>>>>>>>>> trinervius* Wight >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> Plant in photo at Sanjay Gandhi National Park, Mumbai on 16 DEC >>>>>>>>>>> 2007 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> - 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