Very Nice dinesh sir
On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 at 18:31, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks very very much, Mahadeswara ji, for helping in coining and > validating the Kannada name for this plant. > Regards. > Dinesh > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: M Swamy <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:458551] Names of Plants in India :: > Neuracanthus trinervius > To: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > > > Dear Diesh ji, > Kannada name & English transliteration are correct.. > Thanks& Regards, > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 9:45 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp.* trinervius* (Wight) Bidgood & >> Brummitt >> [image: Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus subsp. trinervius (Wight) Bidgood >> & Brummitt] >> >> ¿ *nyur-uh-KANTH-us* ? -- Greek: *neuron* (vein, nerve); *ákantha* >> (thorn, spine); spiny vein ... Dave's Botanary >> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >> ¿ *tet-ra-gon-uh-STAK-ee-us* ? -- from the Greek *tetragono* >> (four-angled) and *stachys* (flower spike) ... Dave's Botanary >> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >> ¿ *try-NER-vee-us* ? -- three-veined ... Dave's Botanary >> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >> >> *commonly known as*: three-veined neuracanthus • *Gujarati*: મોટા ગંઠેર >> mota ganther • *Kannada*: ನೀಲಿ ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi • *Marathi*: >> निळगोंडा nilgonda >> >> >> *botanical names*: *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp. *trinervius* >> (Wight) Bidgood & Brummitt ... *homotypic synonyms*: *Neuracanthus >> trinervius* Wight ... POWO <https://powo.science.kew.org/>, retrieved 21 >> November 2023 >> Bibliography / etymology >> Links listed as references in the notes below, may not remain valid >> permanently. 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Some sites >> may even close down at their own will. >> ~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~ >> written and spoken widely, in most parts of India >> *three-veined neuracanthus* >> >> - name coined, for want of name; derived from the epithet *trinervius*, >> three-veined, referring to the leaf >> >> ~~~~~ GUJARATI ~~~~~ >> written in: *Gujarati* (ગુજરાતી) ... spoken in: *Gujarat*, *Dadra & >> Nagar Haveli*, *Daman & Diu* >> *મોટા ગંઠેર mota ganther* >> >> - name coined, for want of name; મોટા mota = big; ગંઠેર ganther = >> name given to *Neuracanthus sphaerostachyus* Dalz. >> >> ~~~~~ MARATHI ~~~~~ >> written in: *Devanagari* (मराठी) ... spoken in: *Maharashtra*, Karnataka >> *निळगोंडा nilgonda* >> >> - name coined, for want of name, by Shrikant Ingalhalikar, the author >> of *Further Flowers of Sahyadri*, the second among the three field >> guides to identify plants of northern Western Ghats of India, based on >> flowers >> >> ~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~ >> written in: *Kannada* (ಕನ್ನಡ) ... spoken in: *Karnataka* >> *ನೀಲಿ ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi* >> >> - name coined, for want of name; many thanks to Dr Mahadeswara Swamy >> for help with this name ... efloraofindia >> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/oonCoKVYa1c> ... ನೀಲಿ >> ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi = blue flower stick >> >> ~~~~~ DISTRIBUTION in INDIA ~~~~~ >> Gujarat, Karnataka, Maharashtra; endemic >> >> - Rana, Karan & Nagar, Padamnabhi. (2017). DIVERSITY AND DISTRIBUTION >> OF ENDEMIC ANGIOSPERMS IN GUJARAT. >> >> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318374385_DIVERSITY_AND_DISTRIBUTION_OF_ENDEMIC_ANGIOSPERMS_IN_GUJARAT> >> International Journal of Advanced Research. 5. 730-758. >> 10.21474/IJAR01/4472. >> - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A >> Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. >> >> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf> >> 1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board) >> - Hassler, Michael (2004 - 2023): World Plants. Synonymic Checklist >> and Distribution of the World Flora. >> >> <https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/complete-plant-list> >> Version 18.1; last update Nov. 18th, 2023. Last accessed 21/11/2023. >> >> ~~~~~ Last updated: 21-11-2023 ~~~~~ >> >> >> >> >> >> Names compiled / updated at >> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/11/neuracanthus-tetragonostachyus-subsp.html >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 9:42 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Names compiled / updated at >>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/11/neuracanthus-tetragonostachyus-subsp.html >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Wednesday, 5 October 2011 at 17:12:35 UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>> >>>> That is really nice of you Gibby ji >>>> I think I should help us a lot >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Many thanks Giby ji. >>>>> Could see only the abstract at JSTOR. >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Please find attached herewith the paper that Gurcharan ji was >>>>>> referring to. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Giby >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5 October 2011 16:47, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dinesh ji >>>>>>> The combination was made in an important paper in 1998 by Sally >>>>>>> Bidgood >>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=authors%3A%22Sally%20Bidgood%22&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>> and R K Brummitt >>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=authors%3A%22R%20K%20Brummitt%22&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>> . Kew Bulletin >>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=latest%3AKew+Bulletin&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>> *53*(1): 1-76 >>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=issn%3A0075-5974+vol%3A53+issue%3A1&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>> (1998) >>>>>>> in which they revised the whole genus. Simply because The Plant List >>>>>>> have not been able to resolve it (not rejected it) it is logical that we >>>>>>> follow the combination >>>>>>> *Neuracanthus* *tetragonostachyus* Nees >>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=6888-1&back_page=> >>>>>>> subsp. *trinervius* ( Wight >>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=11658-1&back_page=> >>>>>>> ) Bidgood >>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=14316-1&back_page=> >>>>>>> & Brummitt >>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=1221-1&back_page=> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is small summary from the revision >>>>>>> The genus Neuracanthus is divided into 3 sections; 30 species are >>>>>>> recognised, with a further 5 >>>>>>> subspecies and 3 varieties. From tropical Asia (India to Vietnam) 4 >>>>>>> species and one subspecies are recognised, all referred to sect. >>>>>>> Neuracanthus which also has two species in north and northeast Africa. >>>>>>> Fr... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK HS. >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:04 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The type of Neuracanthus is N. tetragonostachyus and in The Plant >>>>>>>>> list it is put as the unresolved name or synonym with some Justicia >>>>>>>>> species >>>>>>>>> i guess which is mistaken for N. tetragonostachys instead of N. >>>>>>>>> tetragonostachyus Nees. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> now coming to the name N. trinervius Wight, i consider it is the >>>>>>>>> correct name instead of putting under species tetragonostachyus >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus* *tetragonostachyus* subsp. *trinervius* (Wight) >>>>>>>>>> Bidgood is an unresolved species name according to "the plant list" >>>>>>>>>> but has >>>>>>>>>> listed *Neuracanthus trinervius *as a synonym of this species. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Giby >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5 October 2011 15:50, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> if N. trinervis is synonym, than what is the correct name.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pls help >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> via Species >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> >>>>>>>>>>>> > N >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/n> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus trinervius* Wight >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Neuracanthus trinervius Wight] >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2115040164/> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Flowers of India] >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Nilgonda.html> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions at efloraofindia] >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Neuracanthus%20trinervius> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>> more views in flickr] >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Neuracanthustrinervius&m=tags&z=m> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>> more views on Google Earth] >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/&tags=Neuracanthustrinervius&format=kml_nl> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *NYUR-uh-KANTH-us* -- spiny vein >>>>>>>>>>>> *try-NER-vee-us* -- three-veined >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: three-veined neuracanthus >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/three-veined-neuracanthus> >>>>>>>>>>>> • *Marathi*: निळगोंडा nilgonda >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/nilagonda-nilgonda> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *botanical names*: *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp. >>>>>>>>>>>> *trinervius* (Wight) Bidgood *[unresolved]* ... *synonym*: >>>>>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus >>>>>>>>>>>> trinervius* Wight >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> Plant in photo at Sanjay Gandhi National Park, Mumbai on 16 DEC >>>>>>>>>>>> 2007 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> - 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