Thanks very much, Mandru ji, for the appreciation. Regards. Dinesh On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:38 PM Mandru Ramesh Chowdary < [email protected]> wrote:
> Very Nice dinesh sir > > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 at 18:31, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks very very much, Mahadeswara ji, for helping in coining and >> validating the Kannada name for this plant. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: M Swamy <[email protected]> >> Date: Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 5:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:458551] Names of Plants in India :: >> Neuracanthus trinervius >> To: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> >> >> Dear Diesh ji, >> Kannada name & English transliteration are correct.. >> Thanks& Regards, >> >> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 9:45 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp.* trinervius* (Wight) Bidgood & >>> Brummitt >>> [image: Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus subsp. trinervius (Wight) Bidgood >>> & Brummitt] >>> >>> ¿ *nyur-uh-KANTH-us* ? -- Greek: *neuron* (vein, nerve); *ákantha* >>> (thorn, spine); spiny vein ... Dave's Botanary >>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >>> ¿ *tet-ra-gon-uh-STAK-ee-us* ? -- from the Greek *tetragono* >>> (four-angled) and *stachys* (flower spike) ... Dave's Botanary >>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >>> ¿ *try-NER-vee-us* ? -- three-veined ... Dave's Botanary >>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >>> >>> *commonly known as*: three-veined neuracanthus • *Gujarati*: મોટા ગંઠેર >>> mota ganther • *Kannada*: ನೀಲಿ ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi • *Marathi*: >>> निळगोंडा nilgonda >>> >>> >>> *botanical names*: *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp. *trinervius* >>> (Wight) Bidgood & Brummitt ... *homotypic synonyms*: *Neuracanthus >>> trinervius* Wight ... POWO <https://powo.science.kew.org/>, retrieved >>> 21 November 2023 >>> Bibliography / etymology >>> Links listed as references in the notes below, may not remain valid >>> permanently. Portals / websites have a tendency to re-organize / revise >>> their content, leading to change in URLs of pages in their site. Some sites >>> may even close down at their own will. >>> ~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~ >>> written and spoken widely, in most parts of India >>> *three-veined neuracanthus* >>> >>> - name coined, for want of name; derived from the epithet >>> *trinervius*, three-veined, referring to the leaf >>> >>> ~~~~~ GUJARATI ~~~~~ >>> written in: *Gujarati* (ગુજરાતી) ... spoken in: *Gujarat*, *Dadra & >>> Nagar Haveli*, *Daman & Diu* >>> *મોટા ગંઠેર mota ganther* >>> >>> - name coined, for want of name; મોટા mota = big; ગંઠેર ganther = >>> name given to *Neuracanthus sphaerostachyus* Dalz. >>> >>> ~~~~~ MARATHI ~~~~~ >>> written in: *Devanagari* (मराठी) ... spoken in: *Maharashtra*, >>> Karnataka >>> *निळगोंडा nilgonda* >>> >>> - name coined, for want of name, by Shrikant Ingalhalikar, the >>> author of *Further Flowers of Sahyadri*, the second among the three >>> field guides to identify plants of northern Western Ghats of India, based >>> on flowers >>> >>> ~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~ >>> written in: *Kannada* (ಕನ್ನಡ) ... spoken in: *Karnataka* >>> *ನೀಲಿ ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi* >>> >>> - name coined, for want of name; many thanks to Dr Mahadeswara Swamy >>> for help with this name ... efloraofindia >>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/oonCoKVYa1c> ... ನೀಲಿ >>> ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi = blue flower stick >>> >>> ~~~~~ DISTRIBUTION in INDIA ~~~~~ >>> Gujarat, Karnataka, Maharashtra; endemic >>> >>> - Rana, Karan & Nagar, Padamnabhi. (2017). DIVERSITY AND >>> DISTRIBUTION OF ENDEMIC ANGIOSPERMS IN GUJARAT. >>> >>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318374385_DIVERSITY_AND_DISTRIBUTION_OF_ENDEMIC_ANGIOSPERMS_IN_GUJARAT> >>> International Journal of Advanced Research. 5. 730-758. >>> 10.21474/IJAR01/4472. >>> - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A >>> Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. >>> >>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf> >>> 1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board) >>> - Hassler, Michael (2004 - 2023): World Plants. Synonymic Checklist >>> and Distribution of the World Flora. >>> >>> <https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/complete-plant-list> >>> Version 18.1; last update Nov. 18th, 2023. Last accessed 21/11/2023. >>> >>> ~~~~~ Last updated: 21-11-2023 ~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Names compiled / updated at >>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/11/neuracanthus-tetragonostachyus-subsp.html >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 9:42 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Names compiled / updated at >>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/11/neuracanthus-tetragonostachyus-subsp.html >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, 5 October 2011 at 17:12:35 UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>>> >>>>> That is really nice of you Gibby ji >>>>> I think I should help us a lot >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks Giby ji. >>>>>> Could see only the abstract at JSTOR. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Please find attached herewith the paper that Gurcharan ji was >>>>>>> referring to. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Giby >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5 October 2011 16:47, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dinesh ji >>>>>>>> The combination was made in an important paper in 1998 by Sally >>>>>>>> Bidgood >>>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=authors%3A%22Sally%20Bidgood%22&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>>> and R K Brummitt >>>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=authors%3A%22R%20K%20Brummitt%22&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>>> . Kew Bulletin >>>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=latest%3AKew+Bulletin&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>>> *53*(1): 1-76 >>>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=issn%3A0075-5974+vol%3A53+issue%3A1&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>>> (1998) >>>>>>>> in which they revised the whole genus. Simply because The Plant >>>>>>>> List have not been able to resolve it (not rejected it) it is logical >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> we follow the combination >>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus* *tetragonostachyus* Nees >>>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=6888-1&back_page=> >>>>>>>> subsp. *trinervius* ( Wight >>>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=11658-1&back_page=> >>>>>>>> ) Bidgood >>>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=14316-1&back_page=> >>>>>>>> & Brummitt >>>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=1221-1&back_page=> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here is small summary from the revision >>>>>>>> The genus Neuracanthus is divided into 3 sections; 30 species are >>>>>>>> recognised, with a further 5 >>>>>>>> subspecies and 3 varieties. From tropical Asia (India to Vietnam) 4 >>>>>>>> species and one subspecies are recognised, all referred to sect. >>>>>>>> Neuracanthus which also has two species in north and northeast Africa. >>>>>>>> Fr... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK HS. >>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:04 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The type of Neuracanthus is N. tetragonostachyus and in The Plant >>>>>>>>>> list it is put as the unresolved name or synonym with some Justicia >>>>>>>>>> species >>>>>>>>>> i guess which is mistaken for N. tetragonostachys instead of N. >>>>>>>>>> tetragonostachyus Nees. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> now coming to the name N. trinervius Wight, i consider it is the >>>>>>>>>> correct name instead of putting under species tetragonostachyus >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus* *tetragonostachyus* subsp. *trinervius* (Wight) >>>>>>>>>>> Bidgood is an unresolved species name according to "the plant list" >>>>>>>>>>> but has >>>>>>>>>>> listed *Neuracanthus trinervius *as a synonym of this species. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Giby >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 5 October 2011 15:50, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> if N. trinervis is synonym, than what is the correct name.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> pls help >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> via Species >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > N >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/n> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus trinervius* Wight >>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Neuracanthus trinervius Wight] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2115040164/> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Flowers of India] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Nilgonda.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions at efloraofindia] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Neuracanthus%20trinervius> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>>> more views in flickr] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Neuracanthustrinervius&m=tags&z=m> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>>> more views on Google Earth] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/&tags=Neuracanthustrinervius&format=kml_nl> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *NYUR-uh-KANTH-us* -- spiny vein >>>>>>>>>>>>> *try-NER-vee-us* -- three-veined >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: three-veined neuracanthus >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/three-veined-neuracanthus> >>>>>>>>>>>>> • *Marathi*: निळगोंडा nilgonda >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/nilagonda-nilgonda> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *botanical names*: *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp. >>>>>>>>>>>>> *trinervius* (Wight) Bidgood *[unresolved]* ... *synonym*: >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus >>>>>>>>>>>>> trinervius* Wight >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Plant in photo at Sanjay Gandhi National Park, Mumbai on 16 >>>>>>>>>>>>> DEC 2007 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> - 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