Great contribution Dinesh ji. On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 8:14:32 AM UTC+5:30 Dinesh Valke wrote:
> Thanks very much, Mandru ji, for the appreciation. > Regards. > Dinesh > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:38 PM Mandru Ramesh Chowdary < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Very Nice dinesh sir >> >> >> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 at 18:31, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks very very much, Mahadeswara ji, for helping in coining and >>> validating the Kannada name for this plant. >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: M Swamy <[email protected]> >>> Date: Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 5:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:458551] Names of Plants in India :: >>> Neuracanthus trinervius >>> To: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Dear Diesh ji, >>> Kannada name & English transliteration are correct.. >>> Thanks& Regards, >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 9:45 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp.* trinervius* (Wight) Bidgood & >>>> Brummitt >>>> [image: Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus subsp. trinervius (Wight) >>>> Bidgood & Brummitt] >>>> >>>> ¿ *nyur-uh-KANTH-us* ? -- Greek: *neuron* (vein, nerve); *ákantha* >>>> (thorn, spine); spiny vein ... Dave's Botanary >>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >>>> ¿ *tet-ra-gon-uh-STAK-ee-us* ? -- from the Greek *tetragono* >>>> (four-angled) and *stachys* (flower spike) ... Dave's Botanary >>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >>>> ¿ *try-NER-vee-us* ? -- three-veined ... Dave's Botanary >>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >>>> >>>> *commonly known as*: three-veined neuracanthus • *Gujarati*: મોટા >>>> ગંઠેર mota ganther • *Kannada*: ನೀಲಿ ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi • >>>> *Marathi*: निळगोंडा nilgonda >>>> >>>> >>>> *botanical names*: *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp. *trinervius* >>>> (Wight) Bidgood & Brummitt ... *homotypic synonyms*: *Neuracanthus >>>> trinervius* Wight ... POWO <https://powo.science.kew.org/>, retrieved >>>> 21 November 2023 >>>> Bibliography / etymology >>>> Links listed as references in the notes below, may not remain valid >>>> permanently. Portals / websites have a tendency to re-organize / revise >>>> their content, leading to change in URLs of pages in their site. Some >>>> sites >>>> may even close down at their own will. >>>> ~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~ >>>> written and spoken widely, in most parts of India >>>> *three-veined neuracanthus* >>>> >>>> - name coined, for want of name; derived from the epithet >>>> *trinervius*, three-veined, referring to the leaf >>>> >>>> ~~~~~ GUJARATI ~~~~~ >>>> written in: *Gujarati* (ગુજરાતી) ... spoken in: *Gujarat*, *Dadra & >>>> Nagar Haveli*, *Daman & Diu* >>>> *મોટા ગંઠેર mota ganther* >>>> >>>> - name coined, for want of name; મોટા mota = big; ગંઠેર ganther = >>>> name given to *Neuracanthus sphaerostachyus* Dalz. >>>> >>>> ~~~~~ MARATHI ~~~~~ >>>> written in: *Devanagari* (मराठी) ... spoken in: *Maharashtra*, >>>> Karnataka >>>> *निळगोंडा nilgonda* >>>> >>>> - name coined, for want of name, by Shrikant Ingalhalikar, the >>>> author of *Further Flowers of Sahyadri*, the second among the three >>>> field guides to identify plants of northern Western Ghats of India, >>>> based >>>> on flowers >>>> >>>> ~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~ >>>> written in: *Kannada* (ಕನ್ನಡ) ... spoken in: *Karnataka* >>>> *ನೀಲಿ ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi* >>>> >>>> - name coined, for want of name; many thanks to Dr Mahadeswara >>>> Swamy for help with this name ... efloraofindia >>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/oonCoKVYa1c> ... ನೀಲಿ >>>> ಹೂವು ಕಡ್ಡಿ nili huuvu kaddi = blue flower stick >>>> >>>> ~~~~~ DISTRIBUTION in INDIA ~~~~~ >>>> Gujarat, Karnataka, Maharashtra; endemic >>>> >>>> - Rana, Karan & Nagar, Padamnabhi. (2017). DIVERSITY AND >>>> DISTRIBUTION OF ENDEMIC ANGIOSPERMS IN GUJARAT. >>>> >>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318374385_DIVERSITY_AND_DISTRIBUTION_OF_ENDEMIC_ANGIOSPERMS_IN_GUJARAT> >>>> >>>> International Journal of Advanced Research. 5. 730-758. >>>> 10.21474/IJAR01/4472. >>>> - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A >>>> Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. >>>> >>>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf> >>>> >>>> 1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board) >>>> - Hassler, Michael (2004 - 2023): World Plants. Synonymic Checklist >>>> and Distribution of the World Flora. >>>> >>>> <https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/complete-plant-list> >>>> >>>> Version 18.1; last update Nov. 18th, 2023. Last accessed 21/11/2023. >>>> >>>> ~~~~~ Last updated: 21-11-2023 ~~~~~ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Names compiled / updated at >>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/11/neuracanthus-tetragonostachyus-subsp.html >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 9:42 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Names compiled / updated at >>>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/11/neuracanthus-tetragonostachyus-subsp.html >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, 5 October 2011 at 17:12:35 UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That is really nice of you Gibby ji >>>>>> I think I should help us a lot >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks Giby ji. >>>>>>> Could see only the abstract at JSTOR. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please find attached herewith the paper that Gurcharan ji was >>>>>>>> referring to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Giby >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5 October 2011 16:47, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dinesh ji >>>>>>>>> The combination was made in an important paper in 1998 by Sally >>>>>>>>> Bidgood >>>>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=authors%3A%22Sally%20Bidgood%22&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>>>> and R K Brummitt >>>>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=authors%3A%22R%20K%20Brummitt%22&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>>>> . Kew Bulletin >>>>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=latest%3AKew+Bulletin&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>>>> *53*(1): 1-76 >>>>>>>>> <http://pubget.com/search?q=issn%3A0075-5974+vol%3A53+issue%3A1&from=pgtmp_jstor4110453> >>>>>>>>> (1998) >>>>>>>>> in which they revised the whole genus. Simply because The Plant >>>>>>>>> List have not been able to resolve it (not rejected it) it is logical >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> we follow the combination >>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus* *tetragonostachyus* Nees >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=6888-1&back_page=> >>>>>>>>> subsp. *trinervius* ( Wight >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=11658-1&back_page=> >>>>>>>>> ) Bidgood >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=14316-1&back_page=> >>>>>>>>> & Brummitt >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=1221-1&back_page=> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Here is small summary from the revision >>>>>>>>> The genus Neuracanthus is divided into 3 sections; 30 species are >>>>>>>>> recognised, with a further 5 >>>>>>>>> subspecies and 3 varieties. From tropical Asia (India to Vietnam) >>>>>>>>> 4 species and one subspecies are recognised, all referred to sect. >>>>>>>>> Neuracanthus which also has two species in north and northeast >>>>>>>>> Africa. Fr... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OK HS. >>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:04 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The type of Neuracanthus is N. tetragonostachyus and in The >>>>>>>>>>> Plant list it is put as the unresolved name or synonym with some >>>>>>>>>>> Justicia >>>>>>>>>>> species i guess which is mistaken for N. tetragonostachys instead >>>>>>>>>>> of N. >>>>>>>>>>> tetragonostachyus Nees. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> now coming to the name N. trinervius Wight, i consider it is the >>>>>>>>>>> correct name instead of putting under species tetragonostachyus >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus* *tetragonostachyus* subsp. *trinervius* (Wight) >>>>>>>>>>>> Bidgood is an unresolved species name according to "the plant >>>>>>>>>>>> list" but has >>>>>>>>>>>> listed *Neuracanthus trinervius *as a synonym of this >>>>>>>>>>>> species. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Giby >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 October 2011 15:50, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> if N. trinervis is synonym, than what is the correct name.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pls help >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> via Species >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > N >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/n> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus trinervius* Wight >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Neuracanthus trinervius Wight] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2115040164/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Flowers of India] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Nilgonda.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions at efloraofindia] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Neuracanthus%20trinervius> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more views in flickr] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Neuracanthustrinervius&m=tags&z=m> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more views on Google Earth] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/&tags=Neuracanthustrinervius&format=kml_nl> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *NYUR-uh-KANTH-us* -- spiny vein >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *try-NER-vee-us* -- three-veined >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: three-veined neuracanthus >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/three-veined-neuracanthus> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> • *Marathi*: निळगोंडा nilgonda >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/nilagonda-nilgonda> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *botanical names*: *Neuracanthus tetragonostachyus* subsp. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *trinervius* (Wight) Bidgood *[unresolved]* ... *synonym*: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Neuracanthus >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trinervius* Wight >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plant in photo at Sanjay Gandhi National Park, Mumbai on 16 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DEC 2007 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> - 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