Many thanks Yazdy ji for the good spirits !! Many thanks to Gurcharan ji for *Cucumis sativus* var. *hardwickii*.
After having surfed for more information related to Mani ji's input ... ... found that the "wild cucumber" used during Deepavali festival (ritual common in Maharashtra) is known by so many names: कारिंट karinta कारीट karita कडू कारीट kadu karita (एक प्रकारचे कडू फळ ... a kind of bitter fruit) चिराटे chiraate - reading in English (search karit for getting to the context): ... http://www.anothersubcontinent.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t2687.html - reading in Hindi (search कारीट for getting to the context) : ... http://www.nanijdham.org/hi_1/faq.php - reading in Marathi (search कारीट for getting to the context) : ... www.loksatta.com/old/daily/20021103/lokviv4.htm Narrowing down to following in this order: - *Cucumis trigonus* var. *pubescens* (syn. *C. pseudo-colocynthis* var. * pubescens*) - *Cucumis sativus* var. *hardwickii* (syn: *C. hardwickii* ) - *Citrullus colocynthis* ... ruling out Tending to get convinced with *Cucumis trigonus* (var. *pubescens*) : - Dr. K.M. Nadkarni's Indian Materia Medica., Volume 2 By K. M. Nadkarni, A. K. Nadkarni ... interesting reading ... http://books.google.co.in/books?id=RA4Npohz4CEC&pg=PA405&lpg=PA405&dq=karit+Cucumis+trigonus&source=bl&ots=tY9YsdgjWC&sig=rlU22HIJCTJEq7HiwMi8wpge9D4&hl=en&ei=g3WxTKmbBYGycdDv9LIG&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=karit%20Cucumis%20trigonus&f=false More comments, please. Regards. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Dr. Gurcharan Singh Ji, > I have gone through the links sent by you. I am not yet satisfied. We > definitely have achieved quite a bit but I will keep looking for what > I think is the correct identity. At the same time, I must admit that I > am a lay person and may be wrong. > Regards > Yazdy. > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Friends we seem to be reaching somewhere. > > Firstly let us not confuse plant uploaded by Dinesh ji with what is > > established Kachri fruit. Kachri is botanically Cucumis trigonis now > > correctly known as C. melo subsp. agrestris var. agrestris. A fruit which > > rarely exceeds 4 cm in length, is a mini version of watermelon in color, > > fruit green with dark green stripes. And important KACHRI IS EDIBLE AND > > POPULARLY USED AS VEGETABLE IN VILLAGES. The young fruit of C. melo would > > never have tubercles, it may be softly pubescent. > > http://madteaparty.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/a-strange-gourd/ > > http://efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86657&flora_id=5 > > > > The plant uploaded by Dinesh ji and Yazdy ji if it is wild, bitter and > not > > edible (as informed by Yazdy ji, , surely we have reached C. sativus var. > > hardwickii (Royle) Alef. (syn: C. hardwickii Royle) the wild cucumber, > > considered by some to be the progenitor of C. sativus var. sativus. > > If that is so we have achieved a lot in this series on cucurbits. > > And thanks Dinesh ji for uploading these photographs again and again. > > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > Retired Associate Professor > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> > > > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> This is not Zehneria Scabra. Please go through the link for Zeneria > >> scabra. > >> > >> > http://www.google.co.in/search?q=Zehneria+scabra&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___IN364 > >> Regards > >> Yazdy. > >> > >> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Aboli Kulkarni > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > hello everyone, > >> > I think this is wild cucumber ( Zehneria scabra)... this is very > >> > common... we can easily see this in the vicinity of our home... > >> > > >> > On Oct 9, 9:15 am, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> This is not cucumber. It is a wild fruit, we have a lot of discussion > >> >> recently. It is normally found around cowsheds as the animals enjoy > >> >> the fruits in the wild and the seeds sprout from the dried cattle > >> >> dropping. We have a lot of it in our area. > >> >> Regards > >> >> Yazdy. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Dinesh Valke < > [email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Cucumis sativus > >> >> > >> >> > KOO-koo-mis -- from the Greek kykyon meaning, cucumber > >> >> > sa-TEE-vus -- cultivated > >> >> > >> >> > commonly known as: cucumber • Arabic: خيار khiyar • Assamese: > তিয়ঁহ > >> >> > tiyoh, > >> >> > তিঁহু tihu • Bengali: শশা sasa • Gujarati: કાકડી kakadi • Hindi: > खीरा > >> >> > khira > >> >> > • Kannada: ಸೌತೆಕಾಯಿ sautekayi • Kashmiri: लौरू loru • Konkani: तौशे > >> >> > taushe • > >> >> > Lushai: fang-hma • Malayalam: വെള്ളരി vellari • Manipuri: থবী thabi > • > >> >> > Marathi: काकडी kakadi, कांकडी kankadi, खिरा khira, तवशी tavashi • > >> >> > Nepalese: > >> >> > काँक्रो kankro, खिर् khir, खिरो khiro, खिर्-काँक्रि khir-kakri • > >> >> > Oriya: > >> >> > kakudi • Persian: خيار khiyar • Prakrit: खीरओ khira-o • Punjabi: > ਖੀਰਾ > >> >> > khira > >> >> > • Sanskrit: अल्पणः alpanah, अल्पणकः alpanakah, चर्भटी charbati, > >> >> > ईर्वारुः > >> >> > irvaaruh, क्षीरकः kshirakah, त्रपुलम् trapulam, त्रपुसम् trapusam • > >> >> > Sindhi: > >> >> > وَنگيِ vangii • Tamil: வெள்ளரி vellari • Telugu: దోస dosa, కీర kira > • > >> >> > Urdu: > >> >> > کهيرا khira > >> >> > >> >> > Attached views from town of Pali (famous for one of super eight > >> >> > temples of > >> >> > Lord Ganesha) > >> >> > ... these were posted in earlier thread for ID query ... resolved > by > >> >> > Gurcharan ji. > >> >> > ... more views at > >> >> > > http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=91314344%40N00&q=Cucumissativus&m=tags > >> >> > >> >> > Regards.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > >
