Hi Mike:
Well what can I say but thanks for that excellent appraisal!!
There is no doubt that it is worth a look for sure.
My main, and possibly only real concern is the ability not to handle multiple
web sites and multiple domains, but rather exceptionally heavy traffic
(millions of impressions, i.e. page views per day) on a couple of websites on
a single server, without over-competing with other apps like iMS and CF with
which it must co-reside reliably.
I suppose ASP is an issue for those that use that though. I no longer have
any major ASP based apps - they are all on CF now - but there are some useful
things written in ASP nevertheless - like M$ advanced client service for
Terminal services which is extremely useful to have with Win2K.
Anyway - thanks again - definitely woth another look and hopefully the money!
Regards,
Adrian.
> Adrian Cooper wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone out there in iMS land using Website Pro for the frontend?
> > Everywhere I go people seem to rave about Website Pro - any experience out
> > there, and accordingly comments and observations?
> >
> Hi Adrian - I think you're going to find a number of people on
> this list using WSP - starting with the man himself (Howie, of
> course). I've used it for about four years and I haven't
> regretted it for a second. I'm not the world's most technical
> user (from a programming standpoint), which illustrates an
> important point about WSP - it serves beginner, intermediate,
> and professional/programmer users equally well. The phrase
> "powerful yet easy to use" won't describe anything better than
> it does WSP. My use of IIS has actually been limited because
> I was spoiled by WSP - everytime I do something with IIS, I
> find myself thinking "why is this so much harder to use?" Note
> that's only through IIS4. Then there's the performance issues;
> again, not being that technical, I'm not the best to comment,
> but from what I recall, while many "credible" benchmarks rate
> IIS better, but in a fairly sterile environment - from what I
> understand (biased as I am), WSP performs much better in real
> world settings, particularly in terms of scaling.
>
> One of the best known high-volume users of WSP is Shiloh
> Jennings, who you'll see post messages often on the WSP list,
> host literally thousands of sites using WSP and is one of the
> best resources I know of as to it's technical performance
> capabilities - he's even written a number of utilities for WSP,
> on his way to becoming a "folk hero" to WSP admins everywhere.
> http://shiloh.shanje.com/
>
> Incidentally, the WSP list is about as good a product support
> list as you'll find - like this one - Bob Denny, the original WSP
> developer, is even a semi-regular poster. Anyone even know who
> the lead developer for IIS is? ;-)
>
> In the interest of full disclosure, WSP is not without issues, as
> any technical product has. There is still a nagging problem of
> WSP "exiting" (literally, the service just goes away without a
> trace) for some mysterious reason. I know that sounds very scary
> (and it is), but until it's tracked and resolved by ORA (which I'm
> sure they're working on), one of Shiloh's most popular utils is
> designed to get around it http://shiloh.shanje.com/utils/websitealive/
> Despite the problem, Shiloh sticks with WSP for his thousands of
> sites rather than switch to IIS - I think that says something.
> There's also a memory/thread consumption issue, though from what I
> understand, the most likely culprit may not be WSP per se, but
> ISAPI/WSAPI and ODBC issues (ie, using ASP, CF, iHTML with Access
> rather than SQL on moderate-to-heavy traffic sites). And since
> these app combos are also used with IIS, I believe similar problems
> are seen with it. Again - I'm not tech expert, so take my assessment
> as merely a general description (you might join the list and watch
> for posts about these issues). However, I can say anecdotally that
> when I switched my heaviest traffic merchant store from Access to
> SQL7, WSP immediately stopped hitting max threads and crashing (which
> it was doing on a daily basis by the time I switched. Not scientific,
> but certainly dramatic evidence that WSP may not have been the problem.
> BTW, Shiloh also wrote a util to help tweak the thread settings for WSP:
> http://shiloh.shanje.com/utils/wsprotweaks/
>
> All my sites are low to mid as far as traffic, so I personally can't say
> WSP will absolutely do the job, but I can say from what I've seen and
> read it will likely do the job far better than IIS.
>
> > BTW - everyone says the same about the Serv-U FTP server - and having run
that
> > for a few weeks myself now I would have to agree entirely - it might even
auth
> > from ODBC - and even from inFusion if Howie ever has a mind to do that :-)
> >
> Another one I've been running for four years - so good I dream
> that every piece of software I own was this stable... I think
> if they improve the way virtual directories/paths are handled,
> it could be the most perfect software for what it does that I've
> seen (next to iMS...OF COURSE).
>
> Hope that helps!
> Regards,
> Mike
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