Is it possible to have the survey posted to the list? I haven't seen it, and
I doubt I will (about to go away for work for 4 weeks)...

It would be greatly appreciated so that I can see what all the kafuffle is
about!

Blessings,

themolk.  

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> Subject: Re: EMU / Reforming Alliance
> 
> Certainly some people from across the spectrum will want to 
> survey it and give a more representative view.
> I think however that the survey is inherently flawed, and 
> that it cannot be
> completed by some people in a way that gives accuracy to the 
> view held.   I
> think it was Judy that posted in this way late last week
> 
> I also think it is inappropriate to be working outside the 
> councils of the church on this issue when the various 
> councils are still active.  We have more than one Synod, plus 
> a range of Presbyteries calling for the Assembly
> to "seek concurrence".   Let's allow the councils to work and 
> only seek to
> bypass them if necessary, not just when it suits.
> 
> Thirdly, I think that we are heading into the position of a 
> very "worldly"
> approach of seeking God's will by majority, or by referendum. 
>   From my
> perspective, that is not an area that I would like the UCA to 
> head.  I think it quite unlikely that this survey will be 
> used as a sociological study, rather as evidentiary weight 
> for a discernment of "God's will for the
> church."   Risky ground!
> 
> But the suspicion that a failure to complete the survey will 
> boost the percentages is very much the reason why I think 
> people and congregations who choose not to participate should 
> definitely let the RA and the Assembly know of that decision.
> 
> regards
> Gordon
> 
> 
> > it comes to my attention then that instead of just 
> disallowing the "survey"
> > perhaps everyone should do it and really give a
> > representatives view back to the survey makers.
> > 
> > ministers should take this, discuss it and then have it filled in.
> > 
> > perhaps by not filling it in people are boosting the 
> percentages of responses
> > that the aliance wants.
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > darren
> > 
> > 
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