I just scanned my copy of the four pages and sent it to Steve. I'm happy to send to others, too, but didn't think we needed to clutter the list with this amount of material, given that many people will already have copies. The survey itself is only one page, but I think that it is necessary for people to see all the accompanying pages in order to judge the material.
And in response to Gordon, I have every intention of rewording my email slightly and sending it off to both the Alliance and Assembly to explain why I'm not completing the survey. If others want to use my critique as a basis for their own letters, feel free. Judy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Molkentin Sent: Monday, 27 October 2003 6:45 PM To: 'Gordon Ramsay'; 'Insights Mailing List' Subject: RE: EMU / Reforming Alliance Is it possible to have the survey posted to the list? I haven't seen it, and I doubt I will (about to go away for work for 4 weeks)... It would be greatly appreciated so that I can see what all the kafuffle is about! Blessings, themolk. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Ramsay > Sent: Monday, 27 October 2003 5:58 PM > To: Insights Mailing List > Subject: Re: EMU / Reforming Alliance > > Certainly some people from across the spectrum will want to > survey it and give a more representative view. > I think however that the survey is inherently flawed, and > that it cannot be > completed by some people in a way that gives accuracy to the > view held. I > think it was Judy that posted in this way late last week > > I also think it is inappropriate to be working outside the > councils of the church on this issue when the various > councils are still active. We have more than one Synod, plus > a range of Presbyteries calling for the Assembly > to "seek concurrence". Let's allow the councils to work and > only seek to > bypass them if necessary, not just when it suits. > > Thirdly, I think that we are heading into the position of a > very "worldly" > approach of seeking God's will by majority, or by referendum. > From my > perspective, that is not an area that I would like the UCA to > head. I think it quite unlikely that this survey will be > used as a sociological study, rather as evidentiary weight > for a discernment of "God's will for the > church." Risky ground! > > But the suspicion that a failure to complete the survey will > boost the percentages is very much the reason why I think > people and congregations who choose not to participate should > definitely let the RA and the Assembly know of that decision. > > regards > Gordon > > > > it comes to my attention then that instead of just > disallowing the "survey" > > perhaps everyone should do it and really give a > > representatives view back to the survey makers. > > > > ministers should take this, discuss it and then have it filled in. > > > > perhaps by not filling it in people are boosting the > percentages of responses > > that the aliance wants. > > > > cheers > > > > darren > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.521 / Virus Database: 319 - Release Date: 23/09/03 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > - You are subscribed to the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in > the message body > > 'unsubscribe insights-l' (ell, not one (1)) > > See: http://nsw.uca.org.au/insights-l-information.htm > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------ > - You are subscribed to the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in > the message body 'unsubscribe insights-l' (ell, not one (1)) > See: http://nsw.uca.org.au/insights-l-information.htm > ------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------ - You are subscribed to the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the message body 'unsubscribe insights-l' (ell, not one (1)) See: http://nsw.uca.org.au/insights-l-information.htm ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ - You are subscribed to the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the message body 'unsubscribe insights-l' (ell, not one (1)) See: http://nsw.uca.org.au/insights-l-information.htm ------------------------------------------------------
