> On Aug 26, 2018, at 3:03 PM, Toerless Eckert <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 11:26:47PM +0200, Ole Troan wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26 Aug 2018, at 23:12, Joe Touch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As I???ve mentioned, there are rules under which a NAT is a valid Internet 
>>> device, but it is simply not just a router.
>> 
>> If there really was, can you point to where those rules are? Describing the 
>> behavior of the host stack and applications?
> 
> "A NAT is a transport layer circuit proxy whose network stack owns
> outside adresses on the inside and inside addresses on the outside.”

My definitions:
NAT: viewed as a router or link to devices on the private side, but a host on 
the public side [RFC3022]

Proxy: viewed as different hosts on each side [Sh86]

Transparent proxy: viewed, together with the source, as a single host to the 
sink but invisible to the source on both sides; these are sometimes called 
“performance-enhancing proxies” (PEP) [RFC3135] 

> Something like that. Very likely not explicitly defined that way given
> how BEHAVE just developed pragmatically whats necessary to make
> things work and AFAIK wa prudent enough not to have the architectural
> argument .

IMO, the different types of middleboxes can be defined in terms of the 
combinations of behaviors of existing defined network architecture components 
(see above).

Joe
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