What makes a netbook a netbook?

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:44 AM, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
> well, im not saying that it's like installing a full driver...it's like a
> patch to an already installed driver...
> im planning an upgrade coz V1.1 is pretty old now, and V1.2 is under early
> stage of development...
> some that u can expect from the update is...
> - fully working with netbooks, which apparently most netbook users wanted it
> back then...
> - some minor bug fixed such as MSI code which make PCI slows down such as in
> ur case...
> - and some major bug regarding performance..
> i had to handed to u tribaljet..^^ without ur report on the V1.1 not long
> ago, i never knew what the bugs are, finally now V1.1 will be renew
> again...^^ i might released it next week for testers...
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:35 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> So you're saying those who have V1.1 installed should install this new
>> version? And what kind of improvements might we expect? I personally
>> ask because you know I've had my share of problems regarding driver
>> installs, which after your help were solved and now things work better
>> than ever.
>>
>> On Jun 15, 9:29 am, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > ah, maybe pretty soon i wanna make an update on V1.1...full improvements
>> > coming soon for V1.1 users ^^
>> > while waiting for the V1.2, V1.1 can enjoy an upgrade...V1.1E...
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:26 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > It seems the majority of netbooks use 945gse, but a few also use the
>> > > same as mine, 945gme with the device id 27ae.
>> >
>> > > On Jun 15, 9:21 am, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > hmm, pardon me if it's off topic but what chipset that most netbooks
>> > > use??
>> > > > i think i know how to make V1.1 fully compatible with netbooks....
>> >
>> > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:00 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > So, between 166mhz (the power saving mode and default for some
>> > > > > chipsets), 250 (the mobile default) and 400 (desktop default), if
>> > > > > you
>> > > > > have 400 is great, making the fsb the only limiting factor in your
>> > > > > graphic performance.
>> >
>> > > > > On Jun 15, 8:56 am, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > I think GPUz in the past shows 400Mhz
>> >
>> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:20 AM, tribaljet
>> > > > > > <[email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > Maybe it increases the speed a bit, but your chipset resembles
>> > > > > > > more
>> > > > > > > the 945gms than 945gm which is the general chip. I think you
>> > > > > > > can't
>> > > > > > > activate dual channel, and your gpu clock is, at least at
>> > > > > > > default,
>> > > at
>> > > > > > > 166mhz. I'm not sure what's the equivalent desktop chipset but
>> > > > > > > you
>> > > > > > > should use gpu-z to check the actual clock speeds.
>> >
>> > > > > > > On Jun 15, 8:01 am, Espionage724 <[email protected]>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> hmmm, but GMABooster (not that I even 100% trust it seeing as
>> > > > > > >> it
>> > > > > > >> doesn't work) says I run at 200Mhz.
>> >
>> > > > > > >> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:58 AM, tribaljet
>> > > > > > >> <[email protected]
>> >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > Since you have a celeron, I think you have a 940gml
>> > > > > > >> > chipset,
>> > > which
>> > > > > has
>> > > > > > >> > a gma 950 gpu. 945gm chipsets are for core duos and the
>> > > > > > >> > likes. I
>> > > > > think
>> > > > > > >> > the only limitations you have are the fsbs of cpus, the
>> > > > > > >> > maximum
>> > > > > amount
>> > > > > > >> > of ram and a slower gpu, working at 166mhz instead of 250,
>> > > > > > >> > which
>> > > > > > >> > explains your gaming performance.
>> >
>> > > > > > >> > On Jun 15, 7:48 am, Espionage724 <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >> No, it means my chipset is lesser I guess? Which I guess
>> > > > > > >> >> in
>> > > turn
>> > > > > would
>> > > > > > >> >> mean lower transfer rate between devices? But I'm pretty
>> > > > > > >> >> sure
>> > > my
>> > > > > 945gm
>> > > > > > >> >> is the same as anyone else who has a 945gm
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:35 AM, tribaljet <
>> > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >> > You sure? So it means you have a lesser gma 950?
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> > On Jun 15, 7:30 am, Espionage724
>> > > > > > >> >> > <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >> >> 945GM for graphics, i940 for chipset
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:28 AM, tribaljet <
>> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >> >> > I think the increase of the processor will be felt
>> > > > > > >> >> >> > more or
>> > > > > less
>> > > > > > >> >> >> > easily, and the increase in graphics just might make
>> > > > > > >> >> >> > your
>> > > > > whole aero
>> > > > > > >> >> >> > experience less jerky. You have a 945gm/gms/gme or a
>> > > > > 940/943gml?
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> > On Jun 15, 2:10 am, Espionage724
>> > > > > > >> >> >> > <[email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Ok heres my new results:
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Windows 7 MD v1.1
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Celeron M 420 @ 1.6Ghz (original clock)
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> 2GB 222Mhz DDR2
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Processor: 3.1
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Memory (RAM): 4.5
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Graphics: 2.0
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Gaming Graphics: 3.0
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Primary Hard Disk: 4.3
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Same machine only with PCI/PCI-E/DDR frequency
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> jacked up
>> > > to
>> > > > > max, and
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> CPU clock at 1.9Ghz (via SetFSB)
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Processor: 3.6 (slightly boosted)
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Memory (RAM): 4.7 (slightly boosted)
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Graphics: 2.9 (significiant boost)
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Gaming Graphics: 3.1 (slightly boosted)
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> Primary Hard Disk: 4.4 (slightly boosted)
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> So maybe the CPU does make the difference. Idk if
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> I'm
>> > > that
>> > > > > convinced
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> though since gaming graphics barely moved....
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> On Jun 3, 9:37 am, Abhishek Indoria <
>> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > Intel Pentium 4 2.4 gHz
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > Intel G945 Integrated 256 MB graphics
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > 1 GB RAM
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > CPU 5.8
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > RAM 5.2
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > Graphics 4.0
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > Gaming Graphics: 3.9
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > Yes, Gaming graphics and Processor speed is
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > related. If
>> > > > > either is lower, the
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > second will be low too.
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:51 PM, DanielPK <
>> > > > > [email protected]>wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > CPU: 4.4
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > RAM: 5.2
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > GC:  3.1
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > GC:  3.2
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > HDD: 5.8
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > Base Score: 3.1 :(
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > >  3.1MAX (with alpha drivers) the above CPU score
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > is
>> > > with
>> > > > > (Core Duo
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > T2300E) ...with the C2D my CPU score is actually
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > 5.6
>> > > with
>> > > > > a sucky GPU
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > hahahahaha...
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > On Jun 3, 4:00 pm, AngelicTears
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > <[email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > maybe GMA scores are CPU related....i pretty
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > much
>> > > have
>> > > > > the same scores as
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > tribaljet..dual core related maybe?
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:07 PM, tribaljet <
>> > > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > Forgot to say that I updated my bios which
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > was
>> > > > > supposed to fix some
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > minor bugs with hardware, but who knows if
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > it
>> > > > > increased speed somehow.
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > Along with a few newer chipset drivers, I
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > think
>> > > that
>> > > > > might have just
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > done the trick, perhaps.
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > On Jun 3, 4:13 am, Espionage724 <
>> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > I don't get how your Graphics is that much
>> > > higher
>> > > > > then mine lol.
>> >
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:03 PM, tribaljet
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > <
>> > > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > OS: Windows 7 x86
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > CPU: Intel Core Duo T2600
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Graphics: GMA950
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Driver: Sigma 3.1
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > -----------------
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Graphics - 3.5
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Gaming Graphics - 3.2
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > RAM - 4.9
>> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > CPU - 4.8
>> >
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