On 2007-05-07, Alexander Shishkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, cut off the drama, it was you who ripped off 'autoconf shit' from
> the rc, wasn't it?

Autoconf is autopain, a solution waiting for a problem... creating a
problem [1]. Clear and simple makefiles are _much_ easier to use.

> Again, unless I'm very mistaken (which is fairly unlikely) it was you
> who went along the lines of 'me vs {debian,gentoo,whatever} lusers'
> some month ago in 'Debian sucks' thread, or was it your special way of
> expressing irony towards this kind of attitude in linux?

I never said there aren't lusers and idiot users. There are, a lot
of them. More day by day, as Linux keeps becoming even sorrier 
imitation of Windows, and the more of the herd finds it. It's just
that there is -- or at least used to be -- a progression of users 
of different levels between them and the developers. You could be 
a luser wrt. one piece of software while being the developer of 
another. The trend in FOSS is either-or: the annihilation of that
progression. Ion does not even try to cater for the lusers, and
the distributions doing whatever they will with it, and still 
calling it Ion, makes it even harder to help them to become not
lusers. Too much of essential FOSS core software, OTOH, these days
only tries to cater for the developers of that software, and the 
lusers.

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  [1]: http://iki.fi/tuomov/b/archives/2006/07/04/T21_20_46/

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