On 6 Oct 2008, at 15:57, Kevin J. Butler wrote:
> > RobG wrote: >> >> On Oct 4, 7:20 am, "Kevin J. Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [...] >> >> Apple knows >> enough about the iPhone OS (which is apparently based on OS X) and >> the >> OS X JVM to know that Java apps won't perform very well. >> > Java apps will be fine on the iPhone - especially compared to the > other > mobile phone platforms running J2ME apps. > Let us not forget that there is a big difference between Java on a mobile device and Java on a desktop - much like the difference between Flash on a phone (aka Flash Lite) and Flash on the desktop. I am constantly surprised about the media's, and many commenters, ignorance over this. Even if Apple allowed Flash, what they'd get is Flash Lite, which frankly is junk. This is not the "whole web" other phones allegedly provide. What the media is asking for, I'm not sure can be delivered. What I am sure about is that no one who has a clue actually wants it. Spurious issues of battery life aside, we are happy with the full web, minus the awful Flash advertising. Java provides for us little better. Furthermore, Apple is, it appears, single-handedly pushing forward the web as a platform, which competitors (other than Microsoft clearly) are rushing to catch up with. I have not visited a single site that required Flash or Java, and while I'm no iPhone addict, I wouldn't be without it, and as a professional web developer, I'd like to think my views have a least some semblance of gravitas. > As I said, the issue is not technical. It is completely a matter of > control - Apple really /really/ wants to control the iPhone > application > market monopoly and use it to strengthen their Mac OS market monopoly. > Anything that delivers applications by channels other than via Apple > is > thus a Bad Thing. In terms of this, what Apple clearly want is control over the user experience. Who can blame them? With the App Store, they have lost a significant proportion of this, and it shows. Some applications are simply nasty in terms of the UE (although some of Apple's aren't exactly shining examples either, IMHO). Stating they have a Mac OS market monopoly is disingenuous, as it falsely asserts they have full control over everything from UE to distribution. They have neither, and little in between. Whilst I don't agree that delivery of applications via any channel other than Apple is a "bad thing", I can see that this approach is part of the UE that Apple wishes to promote. I think Android and Windows Mobile's forthcoming "marketplace" is in fact evidence that they are completely right. Henry --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
