Sirs, This thread was first about Flash and later on about JAVA, and,
We need no more java nor flash nor silverlight nor any other propietary solution to the problem. What we need is a push towards complete, functional, useful apis and web standards, and possibly (JavaScript)(), in order to get the web (finally) working as it should... (against M$'s own interests). Sorry, but the web as a platform shouldn't rely on propietary solutions. Did I say HTML5 ? It's a good starting point : send your own proposals: http://www.whatwg.org/mailing-list As to propietary non-web 'native' solutions, why would Apple want to promote sun's JAVA in its own platform (the iPhone) ? Nonsense. And how is JAVA better than Cocoa's frameworks + objective C ? Apple has the best phone on earth. Nokia, Motorola, HTC, anyother could have done it, but they didn't even know what nor how to do it. It's been Apple and now they are in their own right to set the rules on their own platform. Furthermore, I don't even think that JAVA is a better alternative, although google seems to think so. We'll see. Time will tell. -- Jorge. On 06/10/2008, at 16:57, Kevin J. Butler wrote: > > RobG wrote: >> >> On Oct 4, 7:20 am, "Kevin J. Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [...] >> >>> When... Sun deliver versions of ... Java that let Apple control the >>> applications delivered to the iPhone, Apple will let it happen. >>> >> >> The lack of Java on iPhone has nothing to do with Sun, the iPhone >> simply has no JVM. Apple doesn't supply one and there's no 3rd party >> JVM for it from Sun or anyone else. >> > This is incorrect. > > http://java4iphone.com/all-news/all-news/tutorial-install-java-on-the-iphone/ >> Even if there was, you'd either >> have to jail-break your phone to install it or get Apple to agree to >> install it (by App Store or software update). >> > Yes, you have to jailbreak the phone. As I said above, it doesn't "let > Apple control the applications delivered to the iPhone" > >> Apple knows >> enough about the iPhone OS (which is apparently based on OS X) and >> the >> OS X JVM to know that Java apps won't perform very well. >> > Java apps will be fine on the iPhone - especially compared to the > other > mobile phone platforms running J2ME apps. > > As I said, the issue is not technical. It is completely a matter of > control - Apple really /really/ wants to control the iPhone > application > market monopoly and use it to strengthen their Mac OS market monopoly. > Anything that delivers applications by channels other than via Apple > is > thus a Bad Thing. > > kb --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
