so guys let me see if i understand this correctly. I CAN design an app
on windows using web app software? Then I CAN take my already made web
app to a MAC and use Phone Gap to transform it into a native app that
could be placed on the app store?

If this is right, what is the best web app to use for such a simple
app? Remember guys my app has no interactivity besides clicking next
to go to the next page or chapter. It's as simple as a web page in
function.

On Nov 10, 11:26 am, Chris Collett <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's very cool. Did you design it? I'd be interested to see what they are
> using for the cart application.
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > Check outhttp://www.armaniexchange.com/mobile.do
> > <http://www.armaniexchange.com/mobile.do>E-commerce mobile website with
> > online payment :)
>
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 20:00, Daniel Larkin <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >> Remi makes a very interesting point about using a html5 local storage
> >> and the prepaid login area. It may or may not be suitable for the
> >> original poster, but I could certainly imagine a scenario where you
> >> offer an iPhone ( and lets not forget Android, Palm Pre, etc) webapp
> >> experience where a person could read the first 2 or 3 chapters free
> >> and then have to pay to get the remainder in the secured logged in
> >> area (without advertising). However, I'm not clear how you could make
> >> this payment/transaction a "good or impulsive" user experience on the
> >> phone itself? What we need is something like an IUI themed paypal page
> >> after the user clicks on the  "Buy-it Now" button within the webapp.
> >> Not sure how well it would work? Anybody have any thoughts?
>
> >> The key point for the original poster is that developing such a webapp
> >> would probably only take a few days at most, and then you could
> >> subsequently develop a native app.
>
> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Actually yes, you're in the wrong group if you're seeking native app
> >> > development tips 'n tricks :)
> >> > If i understood well, what you want to create is a bundle PDF reader+
> >> one
> >> > PDF file. All in one app
> >> > People will have to download it by the AppStore anyhow ,and an app > 6
> >> mb
> >> > can't be downloaded by 3G but needs wifi or connected to iTunes. This is
> >> not
> >> > true with web-based app. Also, you can create a prepaid personnal
> >> account
> >> > access on a mobile website. Advantage ? More than 1000 bucks not to
> >> spend
> >> > (get an Apple Dev ID + Mac) and the ability to make a standard web
> >> access
> >> > also. iUi + Google App Engine can now provide offline re-access too.
> >> > You should also know that each appstore validation procedure can take
> >> more
> >> > than 3 weeks, each time.
>
> >> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 17:27, Corey Loving <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> Thanks guys, now I understand the difference. I want to do a native
> >> >> app then because I want to sell my book on the app store. I understand
> >> >> I need a mac for that.
>
> >> >> Remi, what I want to do is just make a SUPER simple app. I want to
> >> >> turn my book into an app so readers can have it on the go without
> >> >> needing the internet to read it. It's simple, you click the app, you
> >> >> get chapters to select from, you select a chapter, read a page, click
> >> >> next to go to the next page. I've already seen it done a few times. Im
> >> >> guessing the only coding  I would need to know is how to make it so
> >> >> the reader clicks Next to go to the next page, or chapter.
>
> >> >> Also, I just realized this is a web dev group, so am i in the wrong
> >> >> place guys?
>
> >> >> On Nov 10, 7:09 am, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > Humm ... in a more technical way, a web app is of course web-based,
> >> >> > using
> >> >> > web languages (HTML, CSS, Javascript, PHP, ASP, Perl, Ruby, ...). So
> >> you
> >> >> > have an instant updates, you don't need a mac to develop it, you have
> >> to
> >> >> > go
> >> >> > throw the appstore validation program and fees, can manage your
> >> >> > "website" by
> >> >> > a CMS, etc ...
>
> >> >> > A native application is coded in ObjectiveC, need a mac because the
> >> SDK
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > available for MacOS X only, but provides you access to all native
> >> >> > components
> >> >> > of the phone and datas stored in it (camera, accelerometer, calendar
> >> but
> >> >> > also emails, photos, videos, address book, ...).
>
> >> >> > GPS and Geolocalisation is another story since it's provided also wit
> >> >> > HTML
> >> >> > 5.
>
> >> >> > If you have no C++ or Java or Objective C skills, go web
> >> >> > If you don't need native components features, go web
> >> >> > If you need to be present in the AppStore due to marketing reason, go
> >> >> > app
> >> >> > If you need to use the camera, stored datas, ... go app
>
> >> >> > My 0,02 $
>
> >> >> > and if you really don't know, explain us what is your project and
> >> >> > perhaps we
> >> >> > can help you to make the right decision
>
> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 15:37, Peter Jennings <[email protected]>
> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Corey Loving <[email protected]>
> >> >> > > wrote:
>
> >> >> > >> Guys what exactly is the different between a iphone web app and a
> >> >> > >> iphone app on the istore? I keep seeing this on the sites you guys
> >> >> > >> sent me, but i dont understand.
>
> >> >> > > A web app is a web site formatted to look good on the iPhone or
> >> iPod.
> >> >> > > In
> >> >> > > general they are free. They are not listed in the iStore, but they
> >> are
> >> >> > > listed in Apple's webapp directory. Usually they only run when
> >> >> > > connected to
> >> >> > > the internet, but they can be designed to run without a connection.
> >> >> > > They
> >> >> > > often contain advertising, sometimes for istore apps which aren't
> >> free
> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > > have more functionality.
>
> >> >> > > An iPhone app in the istore is a program that runs on the iPhone or
> >> >> > > iPod.
> >> >> > > They can be free or sold for anywhere between $0.99 and $999.99.
> >> >> > > Usually
> >> >> > > they run offline but many apps require a connection for data that
> >> >> > > changes or
> >> >> > > social media interaction.

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