Brian,

Maybe Bob meant just IPv6 tunneled over IPv4, not protocol translation?

        Jarno

Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Bob Hinden wrote:
> > 
> ..
> > I think you are going a bit far to suggest that the fate of Diffserv
> > depends on what the IPv6 w.g. does with the flow label 
> field.  I suspect
> > that Diffserv will live or die based on IPv4 usage.  Also, 
> as IPv6 is
> > deployed much of it will be initially carried over IPv4.  
> Any QoS solution
> > that is going to be end-to-end will have to deal with a mix 
> of native IPv6
> > and IPv4/IPv6 headers.
> 
> Indeed, and since I don't quite see how IPSEC and NAT-PT are going to 
> work together, the need that triggered this discussion (the need to
> classify ESP packets in the middle of the Internet) really 
> doesn't arise
> in the case of translated packets. The concern is for a 
> native IPv6 environment.
> 
>   Brian
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