Jarno Rajahalme wrote:

> AAA should enable the Starbucks domain to know what you are 
> paying for.

Without a standard set of DSCP values what good does that do me?


> But I think somehow the scenario for the diffserv flow label has been
> intra-domain, between operators. 

And this is the problem. The operators are finding that making
the DSCP completely random has resulted in a useless technology.
The flow label is an end-to-end field so there is a hope they
can restore what they need, but at the same time these bits
are being made mutable.

> The first hop can be solved by the diffserv
> WG alone by devising a suitable PHB-group.

If they had only done that to begin with. 


> The point is, IMO the system doesn't work with the 
> intra-domain 5-tuple
> MF-classifiers as specified today.

I was being very careful not to use the 5-tuple
because the src/dst addresses are mutable thanks
to NAT. The only end-to-end consistent bits are
the protocol & port, and the flow label.


> Maybe no-one has tried out setting
> intra-operator SLAs based on protocol fields set by hosts 
> (being outside of
> the control of both the operators)?

It works as long as long as there is a trust or
financial relationship which creates feedback. 


Tony

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