On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 03:37:25PM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote:
> Indeed 'just pick some random address' if you don't want to
> be connected to the rest of the world. No need for SL.
> Also E20 or a similar amount is peanuts compared to what it
> would cost if you need to renumber your complete site.
> 

Think beyond corporate networks.

SL does not lead to NAT but choosing random addresses *WILL*, consider:

I setup an ad-hoc network using my laptop, wireless is 1 network and
wired is a second, my laptop routes between them.  There is no external
connectivity and site-locals are deprecated so I pick a random prefix.

Now somebody with a link to the wider world joins my network, since there
is no guarantee that the prefix used on the ad-hoc network is not used
on the internet you either have to nat outgoing traffic or re-number
the network.  You have repeatedly slated re-numbering, and it seems
un-feasible in an ad-hoc network anyway so the only choice left is NAT.

If the network was numbered using site-locals all you don't need to
re-number, just advertise an additional prefix.

Yes, applications would need to be made to use the global prefix, we
need a way of enforcing this - a simple method could be that the O/S
simply deprecates the site-local prefix.

If you only consider that Site-locals will ever be deployed in a "normal"
network then the deprecation question is easy (yes deprecate them),
however I thought that one of the advantages of v6 was that it gives
better support for the a-typical network.

I dont think some organisation allocating private prefixes is viable
either, ad-hoc means exactly that, I don't want to be manually entering
my unique private prefix.

How about using fec0:<MAC address>::/64?  That gives a (probably) private
network per interface, the only issue is that you wouldn't be able to
aggregate them in a sizeable network - however I agree that site-locals
shouldn't be used in such a scenario. :)

Mike
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