Bhutta Sb.,
This is a good proposal as this will allow every one to participate as it is
very difficult for every one to reach Karachi. Let Lahore meeting be
convened by Dr. Shahid Alvi as VP ISPAK. Pl. send the common agenda to all.
Since objective is positive and we are working for the common goal, let us
accept the proposal.
Regards
----- Original Message -----
From: "Asif Luqman Qazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
> Bhutta Sb,
>
> Don't create new controversies and misunderstandings.
> For the sake of unity of ISPAK, let us convene General
> Body meetings in all the three cities and decide with
> consensus. You must announce the schedule of meetings
> at Lahore and Islamabad as well. Payment should be a
> condition for voting and not for attending the
> meeting.
>
> If you still insist on excluding genuine ISPs from
> ISPAK, let me make it clear that we will not let five,
> six people to over-rule the opinion of majority. In
> that case we will proceed with elections and the
> meeting on July 10 will be null and void. We already
> have the mandate of majority to do so but we
> restrained action for the sake of unity of ISPAK.
>
> We look forward to receive a reasonable response
> today. In case of failure we will announce the
> election schedule tomorrow.
>
> Regards,
> Asif Luqman Qazi
>
>
>
> --- sbhutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But we were blocked to protest against this move.
> > Bhutta
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 10:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
> >
> >
> > > Bhutta Sb.,
> > >
> > > This is what I am saying.
> > >
> > > The PTCL offer was conditional with rates of
> > software houses to go up
> > which
> > > was not possible and DG Finance knew about it.
> > Furthermore he is/was not
> > the
> > > authority to decide.
> > >
> > > So please do not make such statements which create
> > confusions about
> > others.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 10:14 AM
> > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mr.Nadeem Syed,
> > > > AoA,
> > > > All my statement are correct. Ch.Shah Muhmmad
> > DG Finance PTCL told that
> > > if
> > > > we not give @ US$.6000/- to Software houses then
> > we can give to ISP for
> > > ten
> > > > thousand. But you know what game was played at
> > your office and you
> > helped
> > > me
> > > > . Let the people know facts.
> > > > Bhutta
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:11 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bhutta Sb.,
> > > > >
> > > > > It is shocking to read your accusations (point
> > 1 & 2)
> > > > >
> > > > > Do not misrepresent. Your statement that PTCL
> > was ready to bring down
> > > the
> > > > > rates to $ 10,000/- is not correct as you are
> > presenting. This was an
> > > > > informal statement by one of PTCL official
> > that the rates can be
> > brought
> > > > to
> > > > > $ 10 K for ISPs if the minister takes back his
> > rates announced for
> > > > Software.
> > > > > Do you think that the minister would have
> > taken back his decision.
> > PTCL
> > > > > tried to use you against the minister as well
> > as Computer Society of
> > > > > Pakistan and you played in their hands
> > doubting even your own friends.
> > > The
> > > > > participants in the meeting were are learned
> > and could judge the
> > > situation
> > > > > better.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are making a serious accusation,
> > challenging the integrity,
> > showing
> > > > the
> > > > > mistrust on the participants of the meeting.
> > Remember unless you have
> > > > > learned colleagues from ISPAK, you alone are
> > not able to present the
> > > cases
> > > > > in a professional manner. All the successes
> > were not because of you
> > but
> > > > > because of collective effort.
> > > > >
> > > > > I could never think that you will come to this
> > level. I had lot of
> > > respect
> > > > > for you but you are losing it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Ahmad Nadeem Syed
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar Manzoor"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > > "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "H.K.Pasha"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 6:38 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Every body knows who are playing
> > politics. Who created
> > rift
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > issue of price of b/w 6000 and 15000. in the
> > meeting at Super.net
> > > > > Islamabad.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2.. A group played the role to forced
> > ISPAK to accept US$.15000/-
> > > > while
> > > > > > PTCL was willing to sell at US$.10,000/- to
> > ISPs in the open
> > meeting.
> > > > > > US$.5000/- per 2MB per month will be paid
> > extra to PTCL by ISPs and
> > > also
> > > > > > loose customers who will get @ US$.6000/-
> > due to some members who
> > > forced
> > > > > us
> > > > > > to accept this tariff to save some one in
> > ministry. Rift started
> > from
> > > > that
> > > > > > day. Who is responsible for this huge loos
> > to ISPs.?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3.. There is no restriction to be member
> > of ISPAK if some one
> > > fulfils
> > > > > the
> > > > > > conditions agreed from first day of
> > formation of ISPAK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4.. Every body know there is an " ISPAK",
> > a representative body of
> > > > > > ISPs/DNOPs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 5.. There are no obstacles to be member of
> > ISPAK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 6.. We are inviting continually to all
> > ISP/DNOPs to join ISPAK.
> > The
> > > > > > registration form is available on WEB of
> > ISPAK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 7.. What was the purpose of un-official
> > meetings?
> > > > > > 8.. Who created the term of North and
> > South while we all were
> > > jointly
> > > > > and
> > > > > > smoothly working?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 9.. Who formed parallel body of ISPAK who
> > announced that he is
> > > > president
> > > > > > for next term without approval of General
> > House?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
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