Dear Mr. Qazi Sahib
AoE
As I agreed that I will make my efforts to request Mr. Bhutta Shb and to my
other fellows as well, to schedule a General Body meeting in Lahore and so I
did,and he is discussing with other members for the date of meeting .., I
also personally requested him that there must be 21 days gape on the date of
annoucement of meeting.;;;; my humble request is to you please don't make
mistake which will make the road for any dispute among the memberes of
ISPAK.
Thanks
B/Rds
Malik M. Khan
Gem Net
-----Original Message-----
From: Asif Luqman Qazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: sbhutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; nadeem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
>Bhutta Sb,
>
>Don't create new controversies and misunderstandings.
>For the sake of unity of ISPAK, let us convene General
>Body meetings in all the three cities and decide with
>consensus. You must announce the schedule of meetings
>at Lahore and Islamabad as well. Payment should be a
>condition for voting and not for attending the
>meeting.
>
>If you still insist on excluding genuine ISPs from
>ISPAK, let me make it clear that we will not let five,
>six people to over-rule the opinion of majority. In
>that case we will proceed with elections and the
>meeting on July 10 will be null and void. We already
>have the mandate of majority to do so but we
>restrained action for the sake of unity of ISPAK.
>
>We look forward to receive a reasonable response
>today. In case of failure we will announce the
>election schedule tomorrow.
>
>Regards,
>Asif Luqman Qazi
>
>
>
>--- sbhutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> But we were blocked to protest against this move.
>> Bhutta
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 10:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
>>
>>
>> > Bhutta Sb.,
>> >
>> > This is what I am saying.
>> >
>> > The PTCL offer was conditional with rates of
>> software houses to go up
>> which
>> > was not possible and DG Finance knew about it.
>> Furthermore he is/was not
>> the
>> > authority to decide.
>> >
>> > So please do not make such statements which create
>> confusions about
>> others.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 10:14 AM
>> > Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
>> >
>> >
>> > > Mr.Nadeem Syed,
>> > > AoA,
>> > > All my statement are correct. Ch.Shah Muhmmad
>> DG Finance PTCL told that
>> > if
>> > > we not give @ US$.6000/- to Software houses then
>> we can give to ISP for
>> > ten
>> > > thousand. But you know what game was played at
>> your office and you
>> helped
>> > me
>> > > . Let the people know facts.
>> > > Bhutta
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:11 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Bhutta Sb.,
>> > > >
>> > > > It is shocking to read your accusations (point
>> 1 & 2)
>> > > >
>> > > > Do not misrepresent. Your statement that PTCL
>> was ready to bring down
>> > the
>> > > > rates to $ 10,000/- is not correct as you are
>> presenting. This was an
>> > > > informal statement by one of PTCL official
>> that the rates can be
>> brought
>> > > to
>> > > > $ 10 K for ISPs if the minister takes back his
>> rates announced for
>> > > Software.
>> > > > Do you think that the minister would have
>> taken back his decision.
>> PTCL
>> > > > tried to use you against the minister as well
>> as Computer Society of
>> > > > Pakistan and you played in their hands
>> doubting even your own friends.
>> > The
>> > > > participants in the meeting were are learned
>> and could judge the
>> > situation
>> > > > better.
>> > > >
>> > > > You are making a serious accusation,
>> challenging the integrity,
>> showing
>> > > the
>> > > > mistrust on the participants of the meeting.
>> Remember unless you have
>> > > > learned colleagues from ISPAK, you alone are
>> not able to present the
>> > cases
>> > > > in a professional manner. All the successes
>> were not because of you
>> but
>> > > > because of collective effort.
>> > > >
>> > > > I could never think that you will come to this
>> level. I had lot of
>> > respect
>> > > > for you but you are losing it.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards
>> > > >
>> > > > Ahmad Nadeem Syed
>> > > >
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar Manzoor"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> > > > "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "H.K.Pasha"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 6:38 AM
>> > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > 1. Every body knows who are playing
>> politics. Who created
>> rift
>> > on
>> > > > the
>> > > > > issue of price of b/w 6000 and 15000. in the
>> meeting at Super.net
>> > > > Islamabad.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2.. A group played the role to forced
>> ISPAK to accept US$.15000/-
>> > > while
>> > > > > PTCL was willing to sell at US$.10,000/- to
>> ISPs in the open
>> meeting.
>> > > > > US$.5000/- per 2MB per month will be paid
>> extra to PTCL by ISPs and
>> > also
>> > > > > loose customers who will get @ US$.6000/-
>> due to some members who
>> > forced
>> > > > us
>> > > > > to accept this tariff to save some one in
>> ministry. Rift started
>> from
>> > > that
>> > > > > day. Who is responsible for this huge loos
>> to ISPs.?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 3.. There is no restriction to be member
>> of ISPAK if some one
>> > fulfils
>> > > > the
>> > > > > conditions agreed from first day of
>> formation of ISPAK.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 4.. Every body know there is an " ISPAK",
>> a representative body of
>> > > > > ISPs/DNOPs.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 5.. There are no obstacles to be member of
>> ISPAK.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 6.. We are inviting continually to all
>> ISP/DNOPs to join ISPAK.
>> The
>> > > > > registration form is available on WEB of
>> ISPAK.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 7.. What was the purpose of un-official
>> meetings?
>> > > > > 8.. Who created the term of North and
>> South while we all were
>> > jointly
>> > > > and
>> > > > > smoothly working?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 9.. Who formed parallel body of ISPAK who
>> announced that he is
>> > > president
>> > > > > for next term without approval of General
>> House?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>>
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