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ASF GitHub Bot logged work on ARTEMIS-4582:
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                Author: ASF GitHub Bot
            Created on: 11/Mar/24 15:04
            Start Date: 11/Mar/24 15:04
    Worklog Time Spent: 10m 
      Work Description: gtully commented on code in PR #4820:
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/4820#discussion_r1519877310


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docs/user-manual/security.adoc:
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@@ -68,6 +68,14 @@ This permission allows the user to browse a queue bound to 
the matching address.
 manage::
 This permission allows the user to invoke management operations by sending 
management messages to the management address.
 
+The following two permissions pertain to operations on the management apis of 
the broker. They split management operations into two sets, read only for 
`view`, and `update` for mutating operations. The split is controlled by a 
regular expression. Methods that match will require the `view` permission, all 
others require `update`. The regular expression can be modified through the 
configuration attribute `view-permission-method-match-pattern`. These 
permissions are applicable using a suffix on the management address, and with a 
`jmx.` prefix for MBean access.
+
+view::
+This permission allows access to a read-only subset of management operations.
+
+update::
+This permission allows access to the mutating management operations, any 
operation not in the `view` set.
+

Review Comment:
   thanks, linking in to other two sections.





Issue Time Tracking
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    Worklog Id:     (was: 909226)
    Time Spent: 3.5h  (was: 3h 20m)

> add view and update permissions to augment the manage rbac for control 
> resources
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: ARTEMIS-4582
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-4582
>             Project: ActiveMQ Artemis
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Broker, Configuration, JMX, Web Console
>    Affects Versions: 2.31.0
>            Reporter: Gary Tully
>            Assignee: Gary Tully
>            Priority: Major
>          Time Spent: 3.5h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> we have the manage permission that allows sending to the management address, 
> to access any control resource. We don't however distinguish what a user can 
> do.
> We should segment control operations into categories: CRUD provides a basis
> view for get/is (Read)
> update for set or operations that mutate or modify.
> We allow this sort of configuration via management.xml for jmx mbean access 
> but using a different model based on object name.
> All of the mbeans delegate to the control resources.
> If we add these two additional permissions then we can have a single rbac 
> model (that supports config reload) and more granularity on control resource 
> access from the management address.



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