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ASF GitHub Bot logged work on ARTEMIS-5573:
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                Author: ASF GitHub Bot
            Created on: 16/Apr/26 16:39
            Start Date: 16/Apr/26 16:39
    Worklog Time Spent: 10m 
      Work Description: gemmellr commented on code in PR #6323:
URL: https://github.com/apache/artemis/pull/6323#discussion_r3094756606


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artemis-protocols/artemis-amqp-protocol/src/main/java/org/apache/activemq/artemis/protocol/amqp/broker/AMQPMessagePersisterV4.java:
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@@ -0,0 +1,109 @@
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+package org.apache.activemq.artemis.protocol.amqp.broker;
+
+import java.lang.invoke.MethodHandles;
+
+import org.apache.activemq.artemis.api.core.ActiveMQBuffer;
+import org.apache.activemq.artemis.api.core.Message;
+import org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.persistence.CoreMessageObjectPools;
+import org.apache.activemq.artemis.utils.DataConstants;
+import org.slf4j.Logger;
+import org.slf4j.LoggerFactory;
+
+import static 
org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.persistence.PersisterIDs.AMQPMessagePersisterV4_ID;
+
+/**
+ * V4 adds a size field to determine persister boundaries, enabling 
forward-compatible
+ * extensions without additional versioning.
+ **/
+public class AMQPMessagePersisterV4 extends AMQPMessagePersisterV3 {
+
+   private static final Logger logger = 
LoggerFactory.getLogger(MethodHandles.lookup().lookupClass());
+
+   public static final byte ID = AMQPMessagePersisterV4_ID;
+
+   public static AMQPMessagePersisterV4 theInstance;
+
+   public static AMQPMessagePersisterV4 getInstance() {
+      if (theInstance == null) {
+         theInstance = new AMQPMessagePersisterV4();
+      }
+      return theInstance;
+   }
+
+   @Override
+   public byte getID() {
+      return ID;
+   }
+
+   public AMQPMessagePersisterV4() {
+      super();
+   }
+
+
+   protected static final int PERSISTER_SIZE = DataConstants.SIZE_INT + // 
memory estimate
+      DataConstants.SIZE_BYTE +
+      DataConstants.SIZE_BOOLEAN; // message priority
+
+   @Override
+   public int getEncodeSize(Message record) {
+      int encodeSize = super.getEncodeSize(record) + PERSISTER_SIZE + 
DataConstants.SIZE_INT; // the size delimiter and whatever is written in encode
+      return encodeSize;
+   }
+
+
+   @Override
+   public void encode(ActiveMQBuffer buffer, Message record) {
+      super.encode(buffer, record);
+
+      writeSizeDelimiter(buffer);
+      buffer.writeInt(record.getMemoryEstimate());
+      buffer.writeByte(record.getPriority());
+      buffer.writeBoolean(record.isDurable());
+   }
+
+   protected void writeSizeDelimiter(ActiveMQBuffer buffer) {
+      // this is to allow us to determine the boundary of this persister, for 
future use.
+      buffer.writeInt(PERSISTER_SIZE);

Review Comment:
   I can see is that this would in future allows older brokers unaware of 
future changes to this new persister, to skip over anything added that they 
dont understand...but, do we actually send these 'persister encodings' over the 
wire at all? Wouldnt that make _these_ changes already incompatible with 
existing versions if so? I kinda wonder if thats worth it if so, in order to 
write information thats already available via the message.
   
   Either way, if we ever changed this v4 persister (or the v2 large) in future 
to do something else, and start writing a bigger value here so that old brokers 
can skip it, then surely we end up having to have the new broker inspect the 
size during decode and guess from any possible 'past variants of v4' what 
specific things were added 'without changing he persister [version]' are 
actually present or not in any given v4 (/v2 large) message encountered, purely 
from the size it finds?
   
   That seems like it could be a bit of a PITA. Would it not be simpler long 
term to just have a basic list/map/array style structure so that we can always 
easily determine/look-up the values the given version understands and not need 
to be concerned with manually determining anything when additions are made? If 
we did that at the start then perhaps it would still be the V1 persister in 
use, unless we made some sort of drastic removal?



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tests/compatibility-tests/src/test/java/org/apache/activemq/artemis/tests/compatibility/MultiVersionReplicaTest.java:
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@@ -63,13 +64,11 @@ public static Collection getParameters() {
       if (getJavaVersion() <= 22) {
          // Old 2.x servers fail on JDK23+ without workarounds.
          combinations.add(new Object[]{ARTEMIS_2_22_0, SNAPSHOT});
-         combinations.add(new Object[]{SNAPSHOT, ARTEMIS_2_22_0});
          combinations.add(new Object[]{ARTEMIS_2_17_0, SNAPSHOT});
-         combinations.add(new Object[]{SNAPSHOT, ARTEMIS_2_17_0});
+         combinations.add(new Object[]{ARTEMIS_2_33_0, SNAPSHOT});
       }
 
       combinations.add(new Object[]{ARTEMIS_2_44_0, SNAPSHOT});
-      combinations.add(new Object[]{SNAPSHOT, ARTEMIS_2_44_0});

Review Comment:
   Is it expected there are now no combinations with a new main broker and old 
backup? There were 3 before which seems a bit of a switch up. EDIT: ah, so is 
that about persister incompatibility?





Issue Time Tracking
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    Worklog Id:     (was: 1015988)
    Time Spent: 12h 50m  (was: 12h 40m)

> Make AMQP Size immutable
> ------------------------
>
>                 Key: ARTEMIS-5573
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-5573
>             Project: Artemis
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: AMQP
>    Affects Versions: 2.41.0
>            Reporter: Clebert Suconic
>            Assignee: Clebert Suconic
>            Priority: Major
>              Labels: pull-request-available
>          Time Spent: 12h 50m
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> I have had a lot of issues, even recently on races between re-evaluating a 
> message size in AMQP.
> Say a lazy decode happens at the wrong time and the memory estimates can be 
> wrong.
> We have fixed issues along the years, but this is still a fragile process 
> that is bound to fail. If an user for instance add a plugin breaking the 
> chain of events.
> For that reason the memory estimate should already include enough estimation 
> for any properties decoded and the process should be simplified.
> Less moving parts would mean less possibilities for bugs.



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