Hello, On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Dominig ar Foll (Intel OTC) <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry to be swimming against the flow but I do not see a car user > configuring IMAP in a real situation.
Maybe so. But this is conflicting with the list of high level requirements JLR published earlier in the thread, I quote: " There's definitely a need for email in the car. Non-drivers could benefit from a traditional email app, where text is inputted via a virtual keyboard, similar to how one would use a mobile version. The ultimate solution of course would be one where drivers would use a combination of Speech-To-Text/Text-To-Speech for interaction with the email app while driving. For a PoC, IMAP and POP3 support is needed at a minimum, as well as support for adding/managing multiple accounts. Pre-set account types such as Exchange, Gmail, and Yahoo would also be nice in a production environment. Most email features such as attachments, searching through mail (voice search?), browsing folders, and conversation threads are also preferred in an IVI scenario as well. Obviously, support for push notifications and the like, would do away with the need for things like a giant sync button, though a manual sync/refresh would still be nice. We can talk more about the gritty details, but this should give a concise overview of what we're looking for in IVI. Thanks for the support! " My take on this is that we have email stacks working well in tablets, mobile phones etc., I cannot see why they would not work in a car. > > The initial login configuration is simple (a set of predefined profiles > would do for most common cases) but then start the pain. > Here is my list of questions : > - which folders are you going to configure for auto sync at message > reception ? Likely all. > imap does not provide event for folder update what is common with > filtering from server. > - which level of history you plan to keep locally, do you need a > configuration ? > search efficiency will depend of the level of available history > initial sync cost/delay will be affected by it has well. > - what about local copy when folder is renamed / removed from remote server > ? > - what about people with multiple accounts ? > - strategy for address book sync ? > - cost implication in case of tethering (most common use case) will quickly > be out of control. Aren't these common issues to any email deployment? Why IVI is special? > Honestly, I do not see that level of complexity coming soon of any real use > in a car. Maybe so - I tend to agree, but we have got requirements differing from this. > My feeling is what is needed is rather a simple easy access to the email > already configured in the user phone. > In my search of potential solution, I have been pleasantly surprised by the > notification model implemented in the Tizen Watch. Just to get this right, are you proposing the development of a new email sync solution based on the Tizen Watch notification model?? You mean something like Bluetooth MAP, just 'done right'? Have you checked the MAP spec? Wouldn't it be just more easier implementing *that* standardized solution - and see how many phone manufacturers actually take the burden of implementing it... not many. I wonder how many device manufacturers will then implement this specific Samsung solution... So why do you think a niche solution like this would be better in IVI than a proven, scalable solution like EDS+Camel+MAP? > > The user download an App on its Smart phone which register to the phone > email event (and calendar) and push them to the remote device. > the remote device present the incoming events and offer : > - full read (should be voice read in a car) > - quick response yes/no, ok/ko, driving will call back later, ... > > The main advantage of that model are : > - no account configuration > - works for mail, sms, calendar. > - can be expended to other message based services (twitter, ...) Well, we do need account configuration. I as a user *want* account configuration, at least in selecting which of my 3-4 email accounts should be sync'd with the car, out of which I may have webmail, POP3 and IMAP. I want to configure differently my 2 phones + tablet and my kids' 4 tablets, too. The model may be nice, but it doesn't seem to be practical for implementing the IVI use cases. > > Thoughts ? My notes were indeed just thoughts, and I am sure Srini could address this topic in more depth. Best regards, Zoltan > > Some more info on Tizen Watch notification > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8NFs0aJY7I > http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/15/almost-all-of-your-notifications-can-now-display-on-galaxy-gear/ > > Dominig ar Foll > Senior Software Architect > Open Source Technology Centre > Intel SSG > > > > > _______________________________________________ > IVI mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/ivi _______________________________________________ IVI mailing list [email protected] https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/ivi
